Federal Deer Thugs Ammo

reynolds357 · February 21, 2013, 10:20 PM

Is this stuff the same thing as Fusion? Same price, looks like same bullet, same trajectories. Before you ask "why not just buy fusion?" I cant find it without ordering it from someone online and paying freight, but Wal Mart has the shelves busting at the seams with "Deer thugs" sitting in the same spots where "Fusion" used to set.

Newton24b · February 23, 2013, 04:08 PM

its the same identical ammunition. all that changed was the package.

walmart sponsors the "deer thugz" ""hunting"" show. as a result they now sell ammunition that has the show logo on it. just like they sell the atr with deer thugz logo.

reynolds357 · February 23, 2013, 10:29 PM

Thanks,
Ill go buy more.

Nathan · February 24, 2013, 01:07 PM

Hilarious you were serious about "deer thugs"! I was sure that was a misspelling!

Mike40-11 · February 24, 2013, 01:14 PM

Huh. I came over to this thread to be amused by the misspelling of "deer slugs" as "deer thugs". Evidently it's not an error.

Mike40-11 · February 24, 2013, 01:15 PM

Ha, great minds and all that, Nathan. According to google Deer Thugs is a legitimate "thing". Whaddaya know.

reynolds357 · February 24, 2013, 09:08 PM

I looked at it real close and the velocities and trajectories are a little different than fusion. Thee bullets may be fusion, but the powder charges are different.

rjstone5455 · March 27, 2013, 07:09 AM

I contacted Federal to get the ballistics data for their Deer Thugs ammo for my .308. Here is what they sent for the 165 grain bullets. Muzzle velocity is 2659 fps and muzzle energy is 2575. At 100 yards it's 2450 & 2205 and at 200 yards it's 2270 & 1880. THIS IS NOT EQUAL to their Fusion rounds according to their own website. The Thug rounds are not as hot as Fusion rounds of the same caliber and bullet weight.

reynolds357 · March 27, 2013, 06:20 PM

In .243 Win, they are a little hotter than Fusion. I have come to the conclusion they are most likely loaded with the new Deep Curl bullet from Speer.

February 21, 2013, 10:20 PM	#1
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 849	Federal Deer Thugs Ammo Is this stuff the same thing as Fusion? Same price, looks like same bullet, same trajectories. Before you ask "why not just buy fusion?" I cant find it without ordering it from someone online and paying freight, but Wal Mart has the shelves busting at the seams with "Deer thugs" sitting in the same spots where "Fusion" used to set.

March 27, 2013, 07:09 AM	#8
rjstone5455 Junior Member Join Date: March 26, 2013 Posts: 1	Deer Thugs Ballistics I contacted Federal to get the ballistics data for their Deer Thugs ammo for my .308. Here is what they sent for the 165 grain bullets. Muzzle velocity is 2659 fps and muzzle energy is 2575. At 100 yards it's 2450 & 2205 and at 200 yards it's 2270 & 1880. THIS IS NOT EQUAL to their Fusion rounds according to their own website. The Thug rounds are not as hot as Fusion rounds of the same caliber and bullet weight.

February 23, 2013, 04:08 PM	#2
Newton24b Senior Member Join Date: February 10, 2009 Posts: 955	its the same identical ammunition. all that changed was the package. walmart sponsors the "deer thugz" ""hunting"" show. as a result they now sell ammunition that has the show logo on it. just like they sell the atr with deer thugz logo.

February 23, 2013, 10:29 PM	#3
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 849	Thanks, Ill go buy more.

February 24, 2013, 01:07 PM	#4
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 1,271	Hilarious you were serious about "deer thugs"! I was sure that was a misspelling!

February 24, 2013, 01:14 PM	#5
Mike40-11 Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 767	Huh. I came over to this thread to be amused by the misspelling of "deer slugs" as "deer thugs". Evidently it's not an error.

February 24, 2013, 01:15 PM	#6
Mike40-11 Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 767	Ha, great minds and all that, Nathan. According to google Deer Thugs is a legitimate "thing". Whaddaya know.

February 24, 2013, 09:08 PM	#7
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 849	I looked at it real close and the velocities and trajectories are a little different than fusion. Thee bullets may be fusion, but the powder charges are different.

March 27, 2013, 06:20 PM	#9
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 849	In .243 Win, they are a little hotter than Fusion. I have come to the conclusion they are most likely loaded with the new Deep Curl bullet from Speer.