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Old February 14, 2013, 05:45 PM   #26
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Do you have a VFW in your area? These are for vets of foreign wars and they have a Honor guard at most that do funerals for vets. You may also contact the Patriot Guard Riders as they would like to attend.
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Old February 14, 2013, 05:54 PM   #27
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Our protocol we do is simple:

Flanking the burial tent on the left is the US Flag, . . . on the right is the flag that denotes the service: Army, Navy, etc.

At attention, present arms as the casket goes to the tent.

IF the person was a combat vet: boots, helmet, rifle, bayonet, dog tags, etc. (we have the Garand for WW2 and Korea, a M-14 / M-16 for Vietnam, and will be getting an M-4 for current vets, . . . some day).

Folding of the flag, presenting of the flag, presenting of the bronze marker and small flag for it, while a reading is being done about the flag.

Next comes the rifle vollys, . . . we always try for 7 guys / 3 vollys.

Taps on the electronic bugle

We police up what brass we can find, put in a baggie, give to the family.

As a vet, I do not enjoy going to these funerals, but it is always for me a moving experience as we honor those that made it possible for us to be there.

May God bless,
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PS: Amathis, . . . we didn't do the LEO notification one time, firing the volleys in the city outside the funeral home, . . . you can guess the result
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Old February 14, 2013, 07:48 PM   #28
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A little off topic.....if a veteran served honorably then later turned to a life of crime, are they entitled to a funeral with full military honors?
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Old February 14, 2013, 08:01 PM   #29
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There's a prohibition against the use of military honors or internment in a national cemetery for anyone convicted of a capital offense, even if their discharge from the service was under honorable conditions.

Here's an FAQ on military funeral honors and military cemeteries.
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Old February 15, 2013, 09:27 AM   #30
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I've never seen a funeral with boots and helmet and whatnot. However, if you want to see something moving, visit the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial in Washington. The momentos that have been left there are will bring you to tears. They build monuments differently these days.

In the days of the Romans they build grand marble arches. That persisted until relatively recently. The biggest one is probably in Paris but there's one at Gettysburg, too. They also liked to build monuments to generals on horseback. Washington has lots of them and they are impressive. Admirals got monuments, too, but without the horses.

These days, monuments have individual names of the soldiers. That's been done for a long time, of course, in the hometown, usually on some piece of granite near the courthouse. Those monuments, which are not particularly monumental, so to speak, eventually are forgotten as the generations pass away and depending on where they are, are sometimes neglected and become overgrown. That even happens in Washington, D.C. But I've never seen another monument like the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial, referring here only to the wall portion.

There is another trend among monuments to wars, or rather to those who fought in wars. The monuments tend to be built starting around thirty years after the end of the war. When soldiers return home they usually are too busy with jobs and families to bother until they are much older. The Vietnam Veterans Memorial was much sooner than that but we do things fast these days.
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Old February 15, 2013, 11:04 AM   #31
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Blue Train, . . . about a year ago, I got a call we were doing a funeral, and it was at a cemetary very close to my house.

Bob told me it was a Vietnam vet and I just normally asked, "Combat?"

When he answered "Yes", . . . I just got the stuff together, . . . went to the funeral.

It turned out to be one of the deacons at a church I used to pastor.

This is the Vietnam set up we used for his graveside service.

May God bless,
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Old February 16, 2013, 05:55 PM   #32
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Guys I thank ya'll for your support,and all you are trying to do for me ( my dad ).I have been in touch with my brother-in-law and hope to get things worked out before the time comes to well you know.I too have had a one on one talk with one of the fellows here,and I have to say that if we ( the family ) could afford it we would just ask them to do the service.But its just to far for them to do it for us.I will keep ya'll posted to what I find out and hope we find a group of men who can pull it off.I to will add and say that if we can find a group that will do as good as one has spoke to me about,or as I just saw and read,well lets say to how happy and sad I will be.

Dwight I have to say that you guys put on a really nice deal.When my grandfather passed,they did all you do but not the standing rifle,boots,and helment.Man just reading what you last posted and seeing the pic just brings tears to my eyes.My heart goes out to you guys that do such a great job for our Vets.Just hope that ya'll one day get the same.
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Old February 18, 2013, 04:20 PM   #33
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http://vovmcco.com/newhq.html

Viet Nam vets motorcycle group. Email them and things will happen for you.
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