Trust naming rules:

tgreening · February 13, 2013, 09:08 PM

Yes, I've searched.

I'm not looking for what needs to be engraved, that info is fairly easy to find. What I'm looking for is the BATF rules on what you can name your trust. If for some reason I wanted to name it the Scooby Doo Trust, or the　さむらい Trust, is there a rule against it? I'm perfectly fine if someone can point me to the BATF verbiage on naming conventions, but I'll be danged if I can find that on my own.

mcpilot · February 17, 2013, 06:45 PM

That is because the naming of a trust is not under the jurisdiction of the BATFE. IT is under the jurisdiction of your state trust laws.

**James K** · February 17, 2013, 08:49 PM

Well, "Scooby Doo" is probably copyrighted, so I would avoid that.

Jim

Bill DeShivs · February 18, 2013, 02:04 AM

I would think that Screwbatf trust wouldn't go over well, but doubt there is anything they could do about it, except audit you!

Skans · February 19, 2013, 05:38 PM

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Screwbatf trust

Very tempted to use this!

tgreening · February 19, 2013, 10:35 PM

I had no real intentions of naming it the Scooby Doo Trust, but even if I did I doubt I'd have any issues Hanna-Barbera over it.

My curiosity arises from what might happen upon my passing, and if my wife would want to sell the NFA firearms in the trust.

I know from my standpoint it's best to have the name simple and easily identifiable as connected directly to me, IE Greening Trust. But if I was looking to buy an NFA rifle, something with Ocksenshwrtz Trust on it wouldn't exactly trip my trigger.

I was only half kidding about the さむあり Trust, or something in the same vein. It's unique enough to not immediately turn someone off, and looks a lot cooler than Greening Trust.

Willie Lowman · February 20, 2013, 07:57 PM

I don't really want the name of someone else's trust on a gun I buy. I know other people don't want my trust name on something I may sell. That's why having a friend who is a 07/02 is handy.

**Tom Servo** · February 20, 2013, 08:08 PM

I'm not aware of any naming conventions for the trust itself, so long as the name of the trust matches the Form 4 and the engraving.

If you're not doing business or marketing a product under the name, I don't think trademark plays an issue. I do know of one Raccoon City Medical Supply trust...

GoingQuiet · February 20, 2013, 08:55 PM

This is primarily state dependent.

Scorch · February 21, 2013, 12:33 AM

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My curiosity arises from what might happen upon my passing, and if my wife would want to sell the NFA firearms in the trust.

When you establish a trust, you name a trust administrator and a contingent administrator. The administrator is in charge of the trust, can acquire and/or dispose of trust properties. When the administrator dies, the contingent administrator assumes full trust administrator authority and can acquire or dispose of trust property. Ask your attorney, they will have the answer to your questions.

Superhouse 15 · March 11, 2013, 10:30 AM

I can't remember if it was here or on Silencertalk, but someone posted a pic of his Form 1 with the name "In God We" trust on it.

February 13, 2013, 09:08 PM	#1
tgreening Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2011 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 204	Trust naming rules: Yes, I've searched. I'm not looking for what needs to be engraved, that info is fairly easy to find. What I'm looking for is the BATF rules on what you can name your trust. If for some reason I wanted to name it the Scooby Doo Trust, or the　さむらい Trust, is there a rule against it? I'm perfectly fine if someone can point me to the BATF verbiage on naming conventions, but I'll be danged if I can find that on my own.

February 17, 2013, 08:49 PM	#3
James K Staff Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 16,408	Well, "Scooby Doo" is probably copyrighted, so I would avoid that. Jim __________________ Jim K

February 18, 2013, 02:04 AM	#4
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 6,456	I would think that Screwbatf trust wouldn't go over well, but doubt there is anything they could do about it, except audit you! __________________ Bill DeShivs www.billdeshivs.com

February 20, 2013, 07:57 PM	#7
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 1,932	I don't really want the name of someone else's trust on a gun I buy. I know other people don't want my trust name on something I may sell. That's why having a friend who is a 07/02 is handy. __________________ "No, it's not a silencer. This little doodad is my own invention. I call it a loudener." --Sledge Hammer

February 20, 2013, 08:08 PM	#8
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalach Posts: 7,104	I'm not aware of any naming conventions for the trust itself, so long as the name of the trust matches the Form 4 and the engraving. If you're not doing business or marketing a product under the name, I don't think trademark plays an issue. I do know of one Raccoon City Medical Supply trust... __________________ In the depth of winter I finally learned that there was in me an invincible summer. --Albert Camus

February 17, 2013, 06:45 PM	#2
mcpilot Junior Member Join Date: April 16, 2009 Posts: 1	That is because the naming of a trust is not under the jurisdiction of the BATFE. IT is under the jurisdiction of your state trust laws.

February 19, 2013, 10:35 PM	#6
tgreening Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2011 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 204	I had no real intentions of naming it the Scooby Doo Trust, but even if I did I doubt I'd have any issues Hanna-Barbera over it. My curiosity arises from what might happen upon my passing, and if my wife would want to sell the NFA firearms in the trust. I know from my standpoint it's best to have the name simple and easily identifiable as connected directly to me, IE Greening Trust. But if I was looking to buy an NFA rifle, something with Ocksenshwrtz Trust on it wouldn't exactly trip my trigger. I was only half kidding about the さむあり Trust, or something in the same vein. It's unique enough to not immediately turn someone off, and looks a lot cooler than Greening Trust.

February 20, 2013, 08:55 PM	#9
GoingQuiet Member Join Date: July 1, 2010 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 82	This is primarily state dependent. __________________ FFL/SOT Melbourne, FL - Sales by appointment. sales@goingquiet.com Sig Sauer Stocking Dealer Silencerco Stocking Distributor

March 11, 2013, 10:30 AM	#11
Superhouse 15 Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2007 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 844	I can't remember if it was here or on Silencertalk, but someone posted a pic of his Form 1 with the name "In God We" trust on it.