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Old January 21, 2013, 10:35 PM   #26
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That's good info guys, thanks. And damn, that seems a little scary, to tell you the truth.
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Old January 21, 2013, 10:40 PM   #27
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Btw, those Volquartsen TF rifles are beautiful! I guess worth the money if it's your thing.

Also, I'm assuming that problem doesn't exist in the .22WMR, as there are quite a few .22wmr semi-autos on the market... But do you think the problem could be present in a (hypothetical) .22WSM semi-auto, considering the pressures would be quite a bit higher than the .22 WMR?
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Old January 22, 2013, 12:14 AM   #28
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Since this round is based on the .27 nail gun rimfire, I'd like to see a .27! With the right bullet, this could be a thumper and a real boon to the lever action crowd.
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Old January 22, 2013, 05:42 AM   #29
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Sorry, but I cant see paying that kind of money for ammo that I cant reload.
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Old January 22, 2013, 08:44 AM   #30
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a 5mm [ 20cal. ] would be great , more bullet weight and good velocity . a improved 5mm rem.
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Old January 22, 2013, 09:35 AM   #31
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It's just dang near impossible to get range and thump outta a rimfire. There are times I need one, times I need the other and times I need both. Personally I have no interest in a 5mm version. It's just a comprise between the 2, not as good as the .17's or the .22's at either. Basically, I'm not willin to lose the trajectory we'll see in the .17 with out significant increase in thump. A 30gr 5mm just ain't gonna add much. Regardless they had better be pushing 35 (5mm) to 40(.224) grs. to get anywhere near the SD and BC a we need. Basically, light for caliber bullets sucks in any chambering. 30gr for 5mm is too light.

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Old January 22, 2013, 07:34 PM   #32
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Creek Henry, a .27 sounds cool and all, but I have to agree with tjh on the .20. Going back to my airgun days (even though I still shoot them).

Some of you may have a a Sheridan Blue Streak, they started way back, WAY before my 17 years of existence... I believe they were the first to introduce a .20 caliber pellet.

.177 pellets, offers a better ballistic coefficient than .22 caliber pellets of equal weight. The problem is that .177 is affected by wind way too much, considering it's weight. A good compromise is making a slightly larger projectile, while having the heavier weight of the .22 caliber pellet. This means little wind drift and less forward wind resistance (best of both worlds of the .177 and .22) and a pellet that can move further than the .22 with very similar knockdown power. I probably didn't explain this too well, but most people probably know about this anyway, or at least people who have experience with the Blue Streak.

I think this same concept could be revolutionary in the rimfire world. In fact, I wish they would come out with the .17, .20, and .22, but that would be a pipe dream, I'm sure. Either way, the .17HMR and .22WMR both seem to have their own markets and most people who own one, don't own the other (as a general rule), so coming out with a larger caliber round, they would still have a pretty large market.
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Old January 22, 2013, 09:10 PM   #33
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the old 5mm rem mag. with 36-38gr. bullet kicks the 22 mag's butt but Rem .screw the pooch in marketing it.
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Old February 11, 2013, 03:58 PM   #34
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17 wsm

The 17 wsm sounds great but speed doesn't equate to punch. Winchester supreme 22 mag ammo is just below the 17 HMR as far as fps. The 34 grain hp has a lot of smack. If ya got a 22 mag laying around collecting dust. Try a box of these baby's and you just might find a new gun in your closet you didn't know you had. And you can"t argue about the price . Nope ya can't!
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Old June 13, 2013, 03:24 PM   #35
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I saw a ad today Dicks Sporting Goods is selling the B-Mag for $350
Wonder if the ammo is available?

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/sh...redatorVarmint
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Old June 14, 2013, 04:13 AM   #36
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I think the .17 Hornet will over take it and you can reload the ammo. Anyway that's what I was thinking when I got my .17 Hornet.

If they made a .22 version too of the new Winchester rim-fire mag, it would give a boost to those that have a rim-fire only hunting season but I don't have that here.

Expensive, non-reloadable ammo that I may not be able to buy in 5 or 6 years down the road just doesn't do anything for me...

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Old June 15, 2013, 02:13 PM   #37
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Good points all of that BUT when you look at the difference in the price of the rifles I can use the money difference and stock up and a lot of ammo.
Plus 17 Hornet is $18.50 a box of 25!!
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Old June 15, 2013, 06:32 PM   #38
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Man not another bushy taled limb rat popper! Worthless! Sorry my 0.02. I just don't get the little bitty bullet thing. My. 22 lr/ 22 mag are small enough IMHO. To each his own I guess.


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Old June 16, 2013, 01:44 AM   #39
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Yes 17 Hornet is $18.50 a box of 25 but you can reload the brass or sell it to someone that does.

I bought 3 boxes of live ammo and I'll have a set of dies and reloading supplies by the time I shoot all that up...

I've always thought that .17 caliber rifles were interesting but the .17 rem is nuts over bore and while the .17/.221 is better, I think the .17 Hornet makes the most sense. Did I need it? Hell no but that could be said for 25 of the guns in my safe...

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Old June 16, 2013, 12:11 PM   #40
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Tony, how many reloads do you think the 17 Hornet case will handle? I reload also but not sure about that little tiny bullet. I do like the 17 Remington.
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Old June 16, 2013, 03:47 PM   #41
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id like to get a 17 remington some day.

Id like to see a 27 caliber version of this round made.
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