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Old September 11, 2011, 09:56 PM   #1
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Need help identifying an old .455 revolver.

This gun is located in Pakistan and in the same family for generations. It is not a webley though similar. Does anyone recognise it;s maker? Any help greatly appreciated. My first post here, just found this forum.

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Old September 11, 2011, 10:05 PM   #2
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You might also try asking in Harley Nolden's, in The Skunkworks part of the forum. Just let the mods know, so they can link them, as you'll have duplicate threads at that point.
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Old September 11, 2011, 10:08 PM   #3
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Pakistan? Khyber pass style replica?
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Old September 11, 2011, 10:12 PM   #4
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It appears to be a Webley-Pryse.

http://www.nramuseum.com/the-museum/...-revolver.aspx
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Old September 11, 2011, 10:19 PM   #5
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Looks like a Pryse design. Maybe a Webley-Pryse, maybe a Hollis or Bland. Or a Francotte, they were made on the Continent as well.

Or a very fine Darra copy, of course.
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Old September 11, 2011, 10:22 PM   #6
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Good shout from Mr WebleyMkV I would say.

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Pryse.jpg

That thing is beautiful. Would be nice to hear a little of its story if you have it!
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Old September 11, 2011, 10:32 PM   #7
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If it's NOT a Webley, then it's a dead ringer for a Webley-Pryse No. 4 .476 revolver. Judging from the photo, the quality is a lot higher than any 'Khyber Pass" copy I've ever seen. It could be that the engraving has obliterated any markings on it. Unfortunately, when I magnified the photo, the picture quality was not clear enough to spot certain details; For example: Is there a forward facing arrow on the round knob forward of the cylinder?

The Webley-Pryse was based on Charles Pryse's patent of 1876.
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Old September 11, 2011, 11:36 PM   #8
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All I can say is that I have never seen a Darra gun with workmanship like that! Pryse latch guns, as Jim Watson says, were made by Webley and others in England and in Belgium, but that one looks English.

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Old September 11, 2011, 11:41 PM   #9
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That is way cool, whatever it is. Barbecue Gun for a Pak picnic!
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Old September 12, 2011, 07:11 PM   #10
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Many thanks guys, It belongs to the descendants....

of the original owner and is still in Pakistan. I will ask for more information about markings. I first thought Webley but remembered their are many similar guns from the UK and the continent. will get back when I know more.

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Old February 10, 2013, 06:38 PM   #11
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The revolver in question

Lovely gun regardless,I collect British revolvers almost exclusively and always like the Pryse type.It's possibly a Webley No.4 or copy but it's hard to tell in 2013 if Webley was copying the Belgians or the Belgians copying Webley.From the picture I would say most defiantly British retailed,a Pryse pattern of the later type with the inspection latch and fluted cylinder. May or may not be of British manufacture. Quite a few more than many would think were of Belgian manufacture though that does not depreciate the quality. Would be happy to look at a few more pictures if you send them to me and render a more comprehensive opinion.
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Old February 10, 2013, 08:49 PM   #12
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While its possible that this was made in Pakistan, if so it must have been made as a showpiece to demonstrate the highest quality of workmanship.

I'm thinking this came from a European maker, as a presentaion piece intended to spur sales to a local warlord's troops or a royal military service.
The case looks European to me, but if a copy it would be made to look that way.

Extremely grand engraving of even low cost and/or commonplace weapons could be done in Spain for peanuts well into the 70's. I suppose mainly as aprentices work pieces, the most accomplished engravers getting top dollar once they proved themselves worthy of working on more expensive custom guns.

This might be a pistol sent out of the country to have this work done.
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