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Old February 4, 2013, 01:27 PM   #1
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AR 15 sight options

Hello! I was wonder what an inexpensive red dot and magifier set up would be for an ar15 with 20in barrel. I really don't have any experience with red dots and don't want to spend a tone till I decide if I like them. But I will would like one the has a good reputation and a good price
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Old February 4, 2013, 01:32 PM   #2
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red dots are better suited to carbine length. in my experience, the magnifiers add a lot of weight. you will be better off with a nice low power, fixed magnification scope. put it on a quick detach mount with some mbus gen 2 underneath, and youre all set on back up irons too.

another alternative, albeit an expensive one, is just to go with a nice trijicon acog. they are good for cqb and decent mid-range shooting.
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Old February 4, 2013, 01:53 PM   #3
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Look at 1-4x32 scopes.
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Old February 4, 2013, 02:00 PM   #4
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Here is a couple. They get good reviews for what there prices are. "good bang for your buck"

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_s/586.htm

and here

https://www.primaryarms.com/Red_Dot_Sights_s/190.htm
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Old February 4, 2013, 02:13 PM   #5
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The Vortex SPARC and Strikefire seem to get good reviews even after hard use. You can usually find them on ebay for around $200. They aren't built or designed as well as an Aimpoint but they do have a lifetime warranty and you can buy 3 of them for the price of an Aimpoint T1 or H1. The Vortex RDS's use some goofy battery sizes but they are available.

If its just going to be a range toy then the Bushnell TRS gets ok reviews. I doubt that it will hold up to the type of abuse the Vortex optics can but again they sell for around $100. Mission drives the gear.
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Old February 4, 2013, 03:07 PM   #6
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Thanks for the input! I will let all know what I end up doing and I will post pics when its done
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Old February 5, 2013, 12:45 AM   #7
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What kind of distance will you be shooting and are you punching steel or looking for tight groups? For shooting groups, I agree with the suggestion of a 1-4 scope.
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Old February 5, 2013, 11:14 AM   #8
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Well I think the furthest distance would be 200 yards and that would be rare. It is going to be a coyote rifle. Where I am the tend to come in quick and in less the 200 yards. So that's kinda why I was thinking a red dot was the option
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Old February 5, 2013, 11:34 AM   #9
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a red dot wouldn't be a bad option for quick acquisition. it's just not best suited for magnification. yes they are available, but i sure didn't like having that much extra stuff lagged to the top of my rifle. with a 20 inch rifle, you usually aren't looking at a quick acquisition scenario. that's more for a "sniping" scenario.
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Old February 5, 2013, 08:20 PM   #10
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You might think about a low power illuminated scope 1x close up and 4x for out as far as 350 400 yards. The Millet DMS is a cheap and very functional optic. It has a circle and dot.

This one sounds like a good fit for you unless your budget is bigger than mine.
http://swfa.com/Millett-1-4x24-DMS-S...bo-P42148.aspx
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Old February 5, 2013, 11:10 PM   #11
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I have and am pleased with my Primary Arms 3x compact scope.

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_...3X_p/pac3x.htm


Or, if you want to spend more for the same scope, there's the Burris ar332.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/525...-reticle-matte

The great thing about them IMO is that they are etched reticles, so if the battery dies, they're still 3x scopes no matter.

I also had the Lucid HD7, it too is also a great scope IMO.

Hope you find something you like whichever scope you decide to get.
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Old February 5, 2013, 11:20 PM   #12
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Even though I've got it on a Guide Gun now, I'd put something like this on it for what you describe:

Leupold's Mark AR series. *


Minimal weight/dimensions
1X is de rigueur for close-in/wide-scan/fast-reaction work.
4X is about optimal for 200yd max work



*(postscript: $299)
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Old February 7, 2013, 03:11 PM   #13
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I would say a red dot for Coyote out past 100 yds is not a good choice (dot size issue and the size of a coyote). Magnifier makes it awkward setup.

Illuminate scope would be better.

Also, inexpensive red dots to fail a lot. Even my EoTech dimmed out. The good news is while it was well outside warranty they fixed it for nothing and sent it back in their special case that I did not get when I bought it originally.
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Old February 7, 2013, 03:16 PM   #14
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My 18" AR wears a Burris MTAC. It is a 1-4x optic that works great. I make quick hits at targets as close as 5 yards while on 1x, as well as hits out to 600 yards on 4x. It is a great scope, and it's little brother, the Tac-30 can be had for about $300....well worth the money.

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