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Old February 3, 2013, 07:42 PM   #1
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Reload Data 44 Mag Speer Gold Dot

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Does anyone have any reloading data for the following components:

44 Mag Case (Non Specific)
H110 Powder
Winchester LP or CCI primers
Speer Gold DOt Hollow Point 200 Grain Part Number 4427

I usually Load H110, WLP Primers, and Speer 240 GR JHP. I however have a bunch of the bullets above that I had used in 44 special loads (the box the bullets came in calls them 44 special bullets) and was wondering if they would be OK to used in the magnum configuration or if they are solely intended for lower velocity loads.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Old February 4, 2013, 08:16 AM   #2
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I took a look in Speer's manual & it shows no loads using that bullet/powder combo. I think the reason is Speer lists the 200gr. GoldDot as a short bbl. lower velocity bullet.
Speer does list a 200 jhp using 26.5gr at 1590fps up to 28.5gr at 1688fps.
Your on your own but if it were me I'd load them using 26.5grs. of H110. I think the only thing that would happen is the GoldDot bullet will over expand when it hits the target.(jacket separation)
I just loaded some 230gr. SB GoldDots for 45acp at about 900fps. when I think they're rated for 800fps. So far no problems.
But you do what you thinks best. You can contact Speer.
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Old February 4, 2013, 09:09 AM   #3
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I think the only thing that would happen is the GoldDot bullet will over expand when it hits the target.(jacket separation)

The Gold Dot is a plated bullet.....no jacket.

I have loaded many different types and weights of GD and their renamed Handgun Deep Curls(formerly GDs). All were loaded to Speer specs and all powder charges were comparable to other load recipes using similar weight and shaped bullets from other sources.
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Old February 4, 2013, 09:22 AM   #4
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The Gold Dot is totally a jacketed bullet!
I've loaded gold dots in 357mag,45acp,45colt,44mag and they have all had jackets
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Old February 4, 2013, 09:33 AM   #5
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Here's a 250gr. From a short bbl. 45colt at about 1050fps.



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Old February 18, 2013, 03:19 AM   #6
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Thanks

Thanks for the info fellas
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Old February 18, 2013, 05:34 PM   #7
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The Gold Dot is totally a jacketed bullet!
I've loaded gold dots in 357mag,45acp,45colt,44mag and they have all had jackets
They're plated.

It's still a jacket, but it's plated on the lead core - instead of being drawn from sheet copper.


Speer is unlikely to give you any data for magnum loads with the 200 gr GDHP. It's too soft, and risks forcing cone damage at magnum velocities/pressures. (And those velocities are beyond its designed expansion window.)

But, if you want to take the risk yourself...
Their 200 gr .44 Mag JHP (tougher than the GDHP) lists the following:
1.590" OAL
26.5-28.5 gr H110 / 1590-1688 fps (7.5" Redhawk)
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Old February 19, 2013, 12:39 AM   #8
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My first SBH 35 years ago loved the Speer 200 JHP over 28 gr W296 and CCI-350 magnum primers. 1" groups at 50 yds with a Leupold 2x LER scope and sandbags.
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Old March 12, 2013, 09:41 AM   #9
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I have to say Frankenmauser you were correct.
GoldDots are plated jacketed.
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