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Old January 26, 2013, 07:11 PM   #1
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Ny/ erie county disapproval

At least one county is taking action to inform the govenor of the dumbest "common sense" bill passed.

http://www.wkbw.com/news/local/Resol...188486661.html
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Old January 27, 2013, 09:45 AM   #2
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NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Association of Erie County Governments urgently asks Governor Andrew M. Cuomo & the Legislative leaders to suspend this law as soon as possible........
And Cuomo will say no. Now what?

Sounds to me like a bunch of folks trying to get away from the fallout without actually doing anything. To be fair, I'm not sure what they can do at this point. The NYSRPA is bringing suit. I've donated to that cause.
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Old January 27, 2013, 10:06 AM   #3
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There's only so much they can do, Cascade. It's a show of support for real common sense and lawful gun owners.

They might only be a ripple in the ocean, but if we get enough ripples together, we've got a tidal wave.
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Old January 27, 2013, 11:22 AM   #4
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It seems the NY Sheriffs association has come out with their views too...

http://www.nysheriffs.org/articles/s...se-ny-safe-act

a few highlights:

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• Requirement of NICS checks for private sales (except between immediate family). We believe that this will ensure that responsible citizens will still be able to obtain legal firearms through private transactions, with the added assurance that private buyers are approved by the federal National Instant Criminal Background Check System. We remain concerned that this provision will be very difficult to enforce and will likely only affect law abiding citizens.
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Assault weapon ban and definition of assault weapons. We believe that the new definition of assault weapons is too broad, and prevents the possession of many weapons that are legitimately used for hunting, target shooting and self defense. Classifying firearms as assault weapons because of one arbitrary feature effectively deprives people the right to possess firearms which have never before been designated as assault weapons. We are convinced that only law abiding gun owners will be affected by these new provisions, while criminals will still have and use whatever weapons they want.
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Reduction of ammunition magazine capacity. The new law enacts reductions in the maximum capacity of gun magazines. We believe based on our years of law enforcement experience that this will not reduce gun violence. The new law will unfairly limit the ability of law‐abiding citizens to purchase firearms in New York. It bears repeating that it is our belief that the reduction of magazine capacity will not make New Yorkers or our communities safer.
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Method of bill passage. It is the view of the Sheriffs’ Association that anytime government decides it is necessary or desirable to test the boundaries of a constitutional right that it should only be done with caution and with great respect for those constitutional boundaries. Further, it should only be done if the benefit to be gained is so great and certain that it far outweighs the damage done by the constriction of individual liberty. While many of the provisions of the new law have surface appeal, it is far from certain that all, or even many, of them will have any significant effect in reducing gun violence, which is the presumed goal of all of us. Unfortunately the process used in adoption of this act did not permit the mature development of the arguments on either side of the debate, and thus many of the stakeholders in this important issue are left feeling ignored by their government. Even those thrilled with the passage of this legislation should be concerned about the process used to secure its passage, for the next time they may find themselves the victim of that same process. Fortunately, the Governor has shown himself open to working with interested parties to address some of the problems that arose due to the hasty enactment of this law. We will work with the Governor and the Legislature on these issues.
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Old January 27, 2013, 01:25 PM   #5
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cascade...it's a start in a process. Hopefully squeaky wheels will get greased, for lack of a better phrase. If people are cheerleaders, their team can still lose...if people join the team, they have a better chance of success.
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