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Old December 24, 2012, 06:09 AM   #101
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Maybe I'm just weird...

But I will even go so far as to carry a .32 as my primary CCW or BUG to a 9mm. With Speer HPs or Hornady Customs, I don't think they would have any more problem stopping someone than a 9/40/45
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Old December 24, 2012, 03:25 PM   #102
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I am a caliber snob.

I admit it freely. I do not like 9mm, 45 ACP, 380 ACP 38 Special or anything smaller or less powerful for self defense. That is my opinion based on my experiences.
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Old December 25, 2012, 02:41 AM   #103
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I am certainly not a caliber snob. I have no problem with anyone shooting any caliber he chooses to...as long as it's a .38 Special.
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Old December 25, 2012, 09:07 AM   #104
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Not I, if it goes bang I like it (though I'm not going to carry a 22 short for PD..but I still like it)
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Old December 25, 2012, 10:58 PM   #105
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I'm not sure it makes all that much difference with NATO FMJ.

Where I see difference is out of carbines. When you push the rounds out to 100 yards from a 12-16 inch barrel you start to see some difference.

At ten yards the energy difference is mostly expended behind your target.
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Old December 25, 2012, 11:22 PM   #106
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My problem with the 10mm and .40 is that I can't shoot follow up shots as fast as I can with 9mm and .45. So, I carry 9mm or .45 depending upon where I'm going and what I'm wearing to conceal the pistol. If I'm going walk-about, where there could be black bears, feral pigs, etc. I take my .41 magnum or .460 Rowland.

I think choice of caliber has more to do with usage than just a simplistic "which one is better" choice.
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Old December 26, 2012, 04:23 AM   #107
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I guess in the back of my mind I am a bit of caliber snob.
Though I dont feel under gunned with a 9mm Im not sure I would want one that only carried say 8 rounds of hp while im comfortable with 8 rounds of 45 hp.
I wouldnt be with 5 rounds of 45 hp but totally comfortable with 5 rounds of 357 125 hp. Really doesnt make sense I dont guess but it is what it is.
My ED carry is a 45 at the present though. 8 plus 1
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Old December 26, 2012, 07:04 PM   #108
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Just don't let people talk you out of a 9mm....there are a hell of a lot of dead guys laying all over the battlefields of Europe that are REAL dead from a 9mm....and thats back before we had the great ammo we have today.... 9 is fine.....
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Old December 26, 2012, 09:08 PM   #109
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well how difficult are follow up shots with .41 and .460 rowland?
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Old December 26, 2012, 09:22 PM   #110
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well how difficult are follow up shots with .41 and .460 rowland?
Completely different usage. Actually, the .41 isn't too bad. It's an 8-3/8 inch Smith that's been ported. The .460 is a handful even with porting. But I'm not using either gun for competition or concealed carry. Which was my point - you need to choose the gun for it's use and not just for being a certain caliber. Both of those guns are too big for easy concealed carry, and neither caliber is needed for self defense or competition use.
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Old December 29, 2012, 02:26 PM   #111
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I guess in the back of my mind I am a bit of caliber snob.
Though I dont feel under gunned with a 9mm Im not sure I would want one that only carried say 8 rounds of hp while im comfortable with 8 rounds of 45 hp.
I wouldnt be with 5 rounds of 45 hp but totally comfortable with 5 rounds of 357 125 hp. Really doesnt make sense I dont guess but it is what it is.
My ED carry is a 45 at the present though. 8 plus 1
Actually that makes perfect sense. You are the only one that needs to feel comfortable in what you carry. Others' opinions should make no difference in that, they need to be comfortable in what they carry.
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Old December 31, 2012, 01:38 AM   #112
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get away from 9mm

Funny, the U.S. armed forces seems to like them.
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Old January 13, 2013, 08:15 PM   #113
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mine's bigger/smaller than yours...

...I carry a .22, 9mm, .40. I own two 9mm's. I really am comfortable carrying as small as my 22, but I really prefer the 9mm. Had a .45 Springfield Loaded and that dang thing, (obviously) weighed way too much for me to comfortably carry.

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Old January 14, 2013, 03:37 AM   #114
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I'll admit it....when it comes to self defense handgun calibers, I'm a snob.
I will not carry anything less than 9mm para.

I think that it's important to have confidence in one's gear.
And I have no confidence in calibers like the .25 auto or the .32 auto.
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Old January 19, 2013, 12:21 AM   #115
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You run into them every once in a while...caliber snobs

A CZ75, is a darn good emulation of a Browning Hi Power, and was a Soviet Bloc pistol, until the wall fell. The 9mm Parabellum round has been around near one hundred years now, and has worked successfully in WW1, WW2, Falklands, and quite a few places of darkness in the night.

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Old January 19, 2013, 02:50 AM   #116
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I guess I can be classified as a caliber snob, I do tend to buy more .40's then other calibers. I favor the .40 more since that was the caliber of my first gun and the fact that ammo for it is usually a little more readily available then 9mm or 45.

But with that being said, I also don't look down on other calibers. A look in my safe will show that I will buy other calibers (.38, .380. 9mm, 10mm, and 45acp). I like to think that each caliber is equally useful if used correctly.
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Old January 19, 2013, 03:58 AM   #117
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I have owned rifles and shotguns since I was a kid but did not purchase a handgun until 2007 when I was 48. Just about everyone I talked to recommended a .40 but I went with a 9MM. The reason is because after shooting both I felt I would be more accurate with a 9MM. And just as important was the fact that the ammo is much less expensive than .40 where I live. To me it was more important to shoot a lot which the 9 allowed me to do. I then purchased a .22 for my son. I could care less what anyone thinks about the pistols I shoot. I now own two 9MM's, two Colt .38 Specials, a .380, a 9MM Makarov and a .22. I enjoy shooting the .22 the most because it is so easy to shoot accurately.

One thing that I find interesting is the caliber debate and all the people online that talk about how you need a cannon for self defense. How many of these people have actually shot someone? I am willing to bet that the percentage of people who have actually shot someone is too small to calculate. I have a neighbor that I also attend church with who is a legend in the police department he works for. The police force services a city of 750,000 people and he is the only officer on the force to have killed two people in the line of duty. And there are only a handful of officers on the force that have killed, much less shot one person. Like most police forces, this one uses .40 caliber Glock's. So I would truly like to know from what experience or knowledge base the big caliber worshipers are drawing their conclusions from - OTHER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE READ.

Okay, I have opened myself up. Let me have it.
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Old January 19, 2013, 04:37 AM   #118
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The caliber snobs I usually run into are the die-hard 45ACP or 7.62x39 guys.

You'll know what i'm talking about... they don't carry anything smaller than .45, and 5.56 is a varmint round.. blah blah blah. I would like to see them get shot with those "inferior" rounds.
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