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Old January 7, 2013, 11:05 PM   #1
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Just submitted a question on CCW to the Texas DPS

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I am considering moving to TX and will be applying for a CCW. I understand that in Texas, if you qualify with a revolver you are stuck with revolvers. My question is, what exactly constitutes a "revolver" over an autoloader? I ask because my "revolver" has automatic gas-powered extraction of empty shells (bouncing 9mm shells from a hammer-mounted deflector) and magazine feeding of fresh rounds. I'm quite serious here. See also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4XtVldNbO4 - under TX rules, is this an "autoloader" or a "revolver" for purposes of CCW qualification?
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Old January 7, 2013, 11:44 PM   #2
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"Revolver" is defined in Federal law.

BTW Texas is full.
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Old January 8, 2013, 12:02 AM   #3
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Jim, while your "Auto-loading Rube Goldberg Revolver" is a wonderful thing just from an engineering standpoint ..... getting a Semi-auto and a Semi- auto permit would be less Rube Goldbergish and much more practical..... just sayin' .......

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Old January 8, 2013, 02:22 AM   #4
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Just buy a semi, what better excuse to buy a new gun.

A lot of the places will rent you a gun during their course. Never understood why someone would qualify on a revolver with our regulation about revolvers.

Plus think you'd have to convince the course instructor to call it a revolver.
Looks like an auto reloading gun not an auto loading gun. The next round isn't ready and lined up behind the barrel after you fire.
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Old January 8, 2013, 02:58 AM   #5
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Doesn't anybody see the comedy value here?

Hint: I'm not moving to Texas. I'll be passing through soon - on my way to Northern Alabama. But I'm not gonna be a Texan.
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Old January 8, 2013, 07:31 AM   #6
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Direct quote (entered into their "contact us" web-form):

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I am considering moving to TX and will be applying for a CCW. I understand that in Texas, if you qualify with a revolver you are stuck with revolvers. My question is, what exactly constitutes a "revolver" over an autoloader? I ask because my "revolver" has automatic gas-powered extraction of empty shells (bouncing 9mm shells from a hammer-mounted deflector) and magazine feeding of fresh rounds. I'm quite serious here. See also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4XtVldNbO4 - under TX rules, is this an "autoloader" or a "revolver" for purposes of CCW qualification?
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Why on earth would they reply to you? It reads like you're trolling. EDIT: Now I see you were indeed trolling the DPS. Don't troll the DPS.
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Old January 8, 2013, 07:32 AM   #7
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"Revolver" is defined in Federal law.

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Old January 8, 2013, 07:52 AM   #8
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I confess, I lived in CA for 18 years before moving to Texas.
Fear not, I'm a right wing conservative that couldn't stand
CA anymore. I LOVE Texas!!!
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Old January 8, 2013, 11:48 AM   #9
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he couldn't find a nice quiet backyard and have someone take a better video? only made it thru about 60 seconds.
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Old January 8, 2013, 01:46 PM   #10
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"Revolver" is defined in Federal law.
But the Texas law (or regulation) about what you can carry if you qualify with a revolver is not a Federal law, so the Federal definition doesn't apply. Is "Revolver" defined in Texas statutes?
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Old January 8, 2013, 09:31 PM   #11
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Apparently some guy with one of those old Webley recoil-operated wheelguns from around WW1 got it declared *both* a revolver and a semi by the Texas DPS.

There actually is some merit to knowing whether it's declared a revolver or auto, no matter what state I'm in.

Wait...what exactly IS the Federal definition, anyhow?
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Old January 8, 2013, 11:04 PM   #12
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"Revolver" is defined in Federal law.
You forget "Texas is "a whole 'nother Country."???
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Old January 8, 2013, 11:46 PM   #13
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I almost died laughing at two points in the video:

1) When you stuck the 9-round "magazine" into the back of it

2) When the sights fell off

It looks like you had a lot of fun designing and creating that... Beast! I wonder why John Browning didn't design his magazines that way?

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