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Old January 2, 2013, 08:04 PM   #1
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remington autoloading shotgun

I need your help, folks. ive read many threads on here and theres a bunch of good info, but kinda hoping to get more specific-to-me info.

I received a Remington shotgun that was my mothers fathers shotgun, used in the early 1900s to put food on the table. the forearm is cracked, and theres a notch out of the stock, but im reading these are good old guns.

im considering ordering new furniture for it, but really don't have a clue what i have. can anyone date it specifically? tell me what its value might be? would it make a decent recreational shooter, or should I mount it on the wall and pick up a modern weapon.

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any information on what i have, year, etc would be appreciated...
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Old January 2, 2013, 08:05 PM   #2
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more pictures..



the flash made the last picture look very rusty, its not at all..
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Old January 2, 2013, 08:44 PM   #3
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You have a Remington Model 11. Don't let the age fool you--it is one FAST cycling shotgun.

I have one where someone cut the barrel off at 19". I mounted a magazine extension on it, and now use it for shooting clays. It points nicely and that gun will break clays all day long. My next step is to install a compensator on the end.

One tip: To ensure proper cycling and feeding, replace the magazine spring with a good new one. Also, I would not shoot slugs or buckshot--unless you like pain.
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Old January 2, 2013, 09:13 PM   #4
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From the stock, it looks like a pre-Model 11 Remington Automatic Shotgun (Browning Patent). The Remington Automatic/Model 11 was manufactured from 1905 until 1947, with very few changes.

If it was mine I would retire it, not shoot it.
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Old January 3, 2013, 06:13 PM   #5
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I agree, you have an older model Rem. M11. It is a Browning design recoil operated auto-shotgun. Generally, the difference in this gun and the Browning A-5 is no magazine cut off lever and the safety type and position.
It should shoot well. I'm not sure if it had the recoil sleeves like the A-5 where the position of the two sleeves were different for light vs. heavy 2.75" loads? It probably does. In the old A5s there was a small paper schematic showing the correct position for the brass/steel sleeves glued inside the foreend.


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Old January 4, 2013, 01:00 AM   #6
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I would leave the furniture as is unless it is damages. Every bit of oil and sweat that stained the wood on that gun came from someone from your family.
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Old January 8, 2013, 11:44 AM   #7
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Yes it's a Rem. Model 11

It needs to have the barrel reset into the receiver. The barrel extension needs to fit flush with the receiver. The barrel is out of the receiver just a little. The photo is not clear enough but it sure appears this way. This can cause breakage of parts like the bolt and lock up guides. They maybe broke already. These also have a recoil buffer in the back of the receiver that is riveted in place. W/O this it hammers the rear of the receiver and causes damage to the receiver and internal parts. These are two easily done repairs. To set the barrel correctly you can machine a steel washer down to fit inside the stock and over the magazine tube then the stock can push the barrel back in spec. You can use plastic or build the area up with epoxy but the washer works easy and fast.

The recoil buffer is probably shot to pieces or completely gone. I install these with a little modification to fit over the existing rivet if it is still there. I use Poly Choke adhesive to fit a new one. There are homemade jigs to do these however. The action spring is on the back of the receiver is "plugged" into the tube with a wooden plug. These split in no time and the spring begins to push the plug out of place and then pushes on the stock with constant force. This causes the stock to have space and eventually crack. You can replace the wooden one with one from a Browning A5 as they are made of plastic and will not split. You may have to trim a little to keep it from being "proud" i.e., out of the action tube.

I install the later Browning A5 two piece carriers in these so the carrier button does not have to be held down to load and it can then load into the chamber if the bolt is locked back by inserting a shell into the magazine tube. In other words it will work like the newer (1955 or so) A5 Brownings.

Best way to store is to oil them and loosen the magazine cap or remove it and place muzzle down to keep oil out of the stock and pressure off the recoil spring. These are hard to find. You can get new 15 coil ones and your shotgun may have this kind instead of the 20 coil ones. These are square spring wire. A new one for a Browning A5 can work but it can also jam the action awfully tight. The barrel alignment ring is about 2 inches different on A5 and Rem barrels. You have to know how to modify the Browning spring or install the friction pieces to prevent this. However, sometimes they work W/O any modification.

I order the Choate two shot extensions unassembled, not blued with 870/1100 threads and set them up to work W/O a stock spacer. You can actually get three extra shots if you set this up a little different than normal.
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Old January 8, 2013, 07:56 PM   #8
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And here's a Remington Model 11 owner's manual explaining the recoil system and how to position the bushings for light or heavy loads.

http://stevespages.com/pdf/remington_11.pdf

Reportedly, Browning A5 wood and most parts will fit.

Here's parts and wood for the Model 11:

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufact...6/11-41186.htm

http://www.poppertsgunparts.com/cgi-...a_gunparts.cgi

http://www.gun-parts.com/remingtonshotgun/
(They possibly have original wood)

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