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Old January 7, 2013, 03:57 PM   #51
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Extermination would be extreme, and unlikely.

Re-education? Somewhat more feasible.
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Old January 7, 2013, 04:06 PM   #52
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Manta, if the Government does not know where they are, they CAN NOT pick them up.

If they do, THEY CAN.

It may not even be the same Government- In Germany, the 1928 law requiring registration with local authorities was passed by the Weimar Government in an effort to disarm the Brownshirts (and the Reds, as well) to curb street fighting ....all in the name of "Public Safety" .... these same lists were used by the Nazi's 10 years later to enforce their new gun laws (Jews prohibited, "sporting purposes" requirements, etc.).
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Old January 7, 2013, 04:11 PM   #53
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Extermination would be extreme, and unlikely.

Re-education? Somewhat more feasible.
It's only a difference in degrees of the tyrannical use of force, is it not?

....and if someone resists being re-educated, that gives a pretext for killing them, no?

It's a slippery slope, once begun .....

Once you are in the camps .....

It's about control, after all.
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Old January 7, 2013, 04:20 PM   #54
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Here's another point to ponder. In politics we have the left and the right. I'm all alone in the middle. The far left and the far right are polar opposites, so to speak, just like a magnet. But imagine a horseshoe magnet. The opposite ends are close together. The point is, the far left and the far right will use exactly the same methods to achieve their aims, so, in a sense, there's little difference.
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Old January 7, 2013, 04:23 PM   #55
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And didn't the IRA make do with an assortment of civilian weapons and captured military weapons, along with a hearty amount of what we would now call IEDs?
I think they had a bit more than that. From their friends in America and libya strange bedfellows.

To continue and escalate their armed campaign, the IRA needed to be better equipped, which meant securing modern small arms. In previous campaigns weapons had been secured before hostilities commenced via raids on British Army and even Irish Army weapons depots. In the 1969–1971 period this was no longer feasible. By 1972, the IRA had large quantities of modern small arms, particularly Armalite rifles, manufactured and purchased in the United States. The AR-18 rifle in particular was found to be very well suited to the Provisionals' purposes as its small size and folding stock meant that it was easy to conceal. Moreover, it was capable of rapid fire and fired a high velocity round which provided great "stopping power"
The IRA's main gun runner in the USA was George Harrison, an IRA veteran, resident in New York since 1938. Harrison bought guns for the IRA from a Corsican arms dealer named George de Meo, who had connections in organised crime. Joe Cahill acted as the contact between NORAID and Harrison. In 1971, the Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) had already seized 700 modern weapons from the IRA, including 2 tonnes of high explosive and 157,000 rounds of ammunition, most of which were US made.


Gaddafi later helped provide the IRA with the weaponry they needed to wage an armed campaign which lasted more than 30 years and claimed more than 1,000 lives.



The Eksund was carrying around 1,000 AK-47 machine guns, a million rounds of ammunition, more than 50 ground-to-air missiles and two tonnes of the powerful Czech-made explosive, Semtex.
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Old January 7, 2013, 05:43 PM   #56
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Here's another point to ponder. In politics we have the left and the right. I'm all alone in the middle. The far left and the far right are polar opposites, so to speak, just like a magnet. But imagine a horseshoe magnet. The opposite ends are close together. The point is, the far left and the far right will use exactly the same methods to achieve their aims, so, in a sense, there's little difference.
My mother, American Government/World History/American history Teacher, drew it up as a circle, with the radical Left and the reactionary Right meeting at the bottom.

I think that Dire Straights had it right, in the lyrics of "Ride Across the River"-

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Nothing gonna stop them as the day follows the night
Right becomes wrong, the left becomes the right
Your idea of "middle" is ...... perplexing to me, BT.

I don't really care for "Left" and "Right"- they can face whatever direction they want to, so long as they leave me and mine alone. Your love affair with Big Powerful Centralized Government scares the the Bejeezus out of me, BT.

I am still waiting, (incredulously) for your answer on what Federal power you do not like, BTW..... If you are the "middle" ....I'm just speechless ...
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Old January 7, 2013, 06:30 PM   #57
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Odd, I just reminded BT of that in the 2nd Amendment thread...

I think he means he is in "the middle" in the sense that each of us perceives things as though from the center (middle) of our own personal universes.
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Odd, I just reminded BT of that in the 2nd Amendment thread...
He has a knack for answering questions with further questions, and wandering off before ever answering .... must be/should have been a Politician.
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Old January 7, 2013, 06:58 PM   #59
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Are you calling him a Socraticialist?
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Old January 7, 2013, 07:00 PM   #60
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Right or left can be rights grabbers. The "right" in this country has went from wanting to shrink the big government to trying to use the government to do what it wants done.

Hope they hammer the democrats on spending. I've already got my first smaller paycheck after the Rs and Ds claimed victory protecting me from my federal income taxes going up...while my payroll tax went up 2%!

I just cannot fathom how people don't properly view today's freedom restrictions with atrocities that happened around the world throughout history. A lot of it must come from a false belief in government that it is good...because people are good.

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Old January 7, 2013, 07:55 PM   #61
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With modern technology and tactics that are available to the military today...it'll be very rough and perhaps impossible to win against them.
I have a very hard time believing that our military (or most of them, at least) would turn on the American people. Most/all of them would know exactly the circumstances upon which such action would be enacted and would, I believe, put up strong resistance to such action.
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Old January 7, 2013, 08:52 PM   #62
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Just took that compass quiz again. I'm practically on top of Milton Friedman.

im okay with that
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Old January 7, 2013, 09:22 PM   #63
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Ok, we are wandering. BTW, did peaceful and logical prose make the folks in London decide that what is now Eire would be free of the British?

As far as modern tech - South Vietnam + the most powerful military on the planet - who took over the country?

The current force levels of the US military (if they cooperated) could not occupy the continental USA. Study logistics a bit.

So - since we are now so off topic and saying the same thing over and over.

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