Is this 9mm

Prof Young · December 28, 2012, 01:47 PM

So my empty nine mil brass is a conglomeration of brass from new ammo I've shot myself, range scrounging, and a bag of used brass I bought at the range. In it all I've got a few that seem to be the right size, but nothing on the head stamp notes that it's 9mm. The markings are "WCC" "11" and a circle with a plus in it. Are these 9mm.

Also I have some other brass that are 9mm but also have a "p+" I'm assuming those are okay to use, but just thought I'd ask.

Thanks for all the help you all have offered in the past. Lots to learn.

Live well, be safe
Prof Young

TATER · December 28, 2012, 02:05 PM

The circle with a plus in it, stands for NATO. As a Nato standard, yes that would be 9mm. The WCC 11 is Winchester 2011.
The +P is fine. I will add, As you sort the brass have a hammer handy, If you run across a piece with A-Merc stamped on it,
Smash it nine times with the hammer.
HTH

jimbob86 · December 28, 2012, 02:08 PM

Quote:

As you sort the brass have a hammer handy, If you run across a piece with A-Merc stamped on it,
Smash it nine times with the hammer.

This is good advice.

Save yourself some frustration and wasted time, primers and powder, and follow it.

Fox1 · December 28, 2012, 03:29 PM

^ This!

Also, make sure when you are smashing it, you do it with vengeance and malice.

serf 'rett · December 28, 2012, 03:44 PM

You will need to check the WCC brass for crimped primer pockets.

jwrowland77 · December 28, 2012, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox1

^ This!

Also, make sure when you are smashing it, you do it with vengeance and malice.

So what you're saying is....

Prof Young · December 29, 2012, 12:11 AM

Okay . . . I'm prepared to smash them, but I don't know why. What is "A-Merc?"

Live well, be safe
Prof Young

tomj44 · December 29, 2012, 12:32 AM

A-Merc is poor quality brass.

Lost Sheep · December 29, 2012, 04:00 PM

Appalachian Ministries Educational Resource Center

or it might be

http://www.afte.org/ExamResources/ga..._MERC.jpg.html

Google is your friend. But it isn't always very discerning.

Lost Sheep

jimbob86 · December 29, 2012, 04:08 PM

I know from experience it crappy ...... but what I'd like to know is why. Why does it not size well like every other brand I've run across?

BigTex308 · December 29, 2012, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TATER

The circle with a plus in it, stands for NATO. As a Nato standard, yes that would be 9mm. The WCC 11 is Winchester 2011.
The +P is fine. I will add, As you sort the brass have a hammer handy, If you run across a piece with A-Merc stamped on it,
Smash it nine times with the hammer.
HTH

What this guy
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Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbob86

This is good advice.

Save yourself some frustration and wasted time, primers and powder, and follow it.

...and this guy...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox1

^ This!

Also, make sure when you are smashing it, you do it with vengeance and malice.

...and this guy said!!!

Ike

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BigJimP · December 29, 2012, 07:17 PM

I believe there is something in the brass alloy in the AMERC head stamped brass that just makes it harder ...almost like steel ....and it just won't resize properly.

I also toss out all the S&B brass and anything that is marked with that nato marking ...the primer cups are tapered a little....and seating new primers is aggravating...

Prof Young · December 29, 2012, 07:32 PM

Thanks for all the info. Very helpful.
Prof Young

December 28, 2012, 01:47 PM	#1
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2007 Posts: 500	Is this 9mm So my empty nine mil brass is a conglomeration of brass from new ammo I've shot myself, range scrounging, and a bag of used brass I bought at the range. In it all I've got a few that seem to be the right size, but nothing on the head stamp notes that it's 9mm. The markings are "WCC" "11" and a circle with a plus in it. Are these 9mm. Also I have some other brass that are 9mm but also have a "p+" I'm assuming those are okay to use, but just thought I'd ask. Thanks for all the help you all have offered in the past. Lots to learn. Live well, be safe Prof Young

December 28, 2012, 03:44 PM	#5
serf 'rett Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2009 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 1,060	You will need to check the WCC brass for crimped primer pockets. __________________ A lack of planning on your part does not necessarily constitute an emergency on my part.

December 29, 2012, 12:11 AM	#7
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2007 Posts: 500	A-merc???? Okay . . . I'm prepared to smash them, but I don't know why. What is "A-Merc?" Live well, be safe Prof Young

December 29, 2012, 04:00 PM	#9
Lost Sheep Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2009 Location: Anchorage Alaska Posts: 2,766	What is AMERC? Appalachian Ministries Educational Resource Center or it might be http://www.afte.org/ExamResources/ga..._MERC.jpg.html Google is your friend. But it isn't always very discerning. Lost Sheep

December 29, 2012, 04:08 PM	#10
jimbob86 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2007 Location: All the way to NEBRASKA Posts: 5,311	I know from experience it crappy ...... but what I'd like to know is why. Why does it not size well like every other brand I've run across? __________________ TheGolden Rule of Tool Use: "If you don't know what you are doing, DON'T." http://nefirearm.com/

December 28, 2012, 02:05 PM	#2
TATER Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 666	The circle with a plus in it, stands for NATO. As a Nato standard, yes that would be 9mm. The WCC 11 is Winchester 2011. The +P is fine. I will add, As you sort the brass have a hammer handy, If you run across a piece with A-Merc stamped on it, Smash it nine times with the hammer. HTH

December 28, 2012, 03:29 PM	#4
Fox1 Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2008 Posts: 293	^ This! Also, make sure when you are smashing it, you do it with vengeance and malice.

December 29, 2012, 12:32 AM	#8
tomj44 Junior Member Join Date: July 13, 2007 Posts: 10	A-Merc is poor quality brass.

December 29, 2012, 07:17 PM	#12
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 10,046	I believe there is something in the brass alloy in the AMERC head stamped brass that just makes it harder ...almost like steel ....and it just won't resize properly. I also toss out all the S&B brass and anything that is marked with that nato marking ...the primer cups are tapered a little....and seating new primers is aggravating...

December 29, 2012, 07:32 PM	#13
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2007 Posts: 500	Thanks Thanks for all the info. Very helpful. Prof Young