Looking Economically priced rimfire bolt action

m_liebst · November 20, 2012, 04:57 PM

I'm looking for an out-of-the box accurate boltaction .22lr under 500.00.
This being a rifle capable of under 1 MOA accuracy. What are import. factors to consider,- besides ammo choice and sorting? Or am I just expecting too much for the dollar that I want to spend?

I was looking at the Savage MK2 TR and was wondering if anyone had any input or experiences with this firearm. (Was actually wondering about the "accu-trigger" and what type of chamber reaming is done to this particular gun.

Savage has a tactical version which sports a 16 inch barrel which caught my eye.

I obviously can't afford a Sako Finnfire or an Anschutz, but was hoping someone might suggests models that could be of interest to me.

alex0535 · November 20, 2012, 05:44 PM

I bet you would be able to shoot more accurately at more distance with a Savage 93R17 TR. It is an attractive rifle, and can probably be had for under $500. I had a 93R17, but it was a very basic one though. Was a fine shooter for being as light as it was, probably shot 1 moa. With a heavier barrel I am sure that it would easily shoot sub moa. As far as the accu-trigger, its adjustable and a good trigger system all in all.

If you don't mind the extra cost of .17 HMR ammo, it has better ballistics than the .22lr or .22 magnum.

I am sure the .22lr from savage is probably very accurate out of the box, but if I was put to a challenge of "lets see who can shoot a golf-ball off a tee from 150 yards first, or with the least number of shots" I would feel like i had a real good chance of doing it on my first shot with a .17 HMR. It wouldn't take me more than 3 shots on a windy day. Hitting a golf ball at 150 yards with a .22 lr, I would not be so confident. Especially if you compared the Savage MK2 TR and the 93R17 TR.

The .22lr has its place though, If you want to shoot all day long .22lr all the way. Its much cheaper ammo, and there is a lot of different choices in ammo as well.

Wallyl · November 20, 2012, 06:07 PM

Had the same "bug" a few years ago so I bought me a Marlin 980V...I paid less that $200 for a new one and it is superbly accurate even with bulk ammo. On a good day (no wind and when I am on my game) I can hit a business card sized plate at 100~125 yards with some brands of bulk ammo with it. Then I got lazy and started to get interested again in my Semi-Autos...(no bolt to cycle)...so I don't use it as extensively as I used to. Over the last two years my 10-22 and a Marlin 60 have been used more, but there is no doubt that teh 980V is the most accurate...probably because it has a tigher chamber and a bull-target barrel.

I set up my steel plate on a cable---shooting into a sand hill and using a high power scope. I can then see the misses/strikes and correct my aim accordingly. This allows one to quickly determine just how accurate that the ammo is... I used a wide variety and the best was Remington Golden Bullet--of all things.

Charles S · November 20, 2012, 06:23 PM

I really like my Savage MKII. I have the Savage MK II FV-SR that I really like and to answer your question I like the AccuTrigger. With good match grade ammo mine is consistently MOA to over 100 yards.

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIFVSR

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I am sure the .22lr from savage is probably very accurate out of the box, but if I was put to a challenge of "lets see who can shoot a golf-ball off a tee from 150 yards first, or with the least number of shots" I would feel like i had a real good chance of doing it on my first shot with a .17 HMR. It wouldn't take me more than 3 shots on a windy day. Hitting a golf ball at 150 yards with a .22 lr, I would not be so confident. Especially if you compared the Savage MK2 TR and the 93R17 TR.

I would take you up on that for a lunch bet any day with my Savage 22. The best part about mine is I can do it quietly

Of course I have more money in accessories. Scope and silencer - than I do in the gun.

geetarman · November 20, 2012, 08:25 PM

There is a lot to like with a CZ 452 Trainer. Nice trigger, great iron sights, nice stock and very accurate.

mr.t7024 · November 20, 2012, 09:04 PM

I have a mark II .22 in stainless ad a Savage 93 in 17HMR,both have the Accu Trigger,both are excellent rifles. They are extremely accurate. You will be pleased! BTW Each rifle is under a 5 hundred dollars.

Cliff

You also need to check out the Marlin line up, also an excellent choice.

Metal god · November 20, 2012, 11:27 PM

If accurace is what your going for . The MK11 FV will be just as acurate as the TR for les then half the cost . Add a tacticool stock for $100 http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/TACT-S...-p/600-430.htm And you have a nice bench gun for $325 . I have the FV and the stock on the FV is very hard to get a consistant cheekweld with

Scorch · November 21, 2012, 04:07 AM

CZ 452 American, no question. Savages and Marlins shoot well but look like a toothache.

Corey Jacobs · November 21, 2012, 11:39 PM

CZ 452 all the way. Simply awesome.

m_liebst · November 25, 2012, 07:57 PM

Thank you all for the great imput.

Was considering the .17hmr,... but ammo cost and muzzle report counts it out in a big way for me.

I know the .22lr has its limitations but it will fit most of my needs. I'm a bit a fan of the round being that it was the first caliber I've shot as a young kid and that there has been so much development of specialty ammo. The .22lr has come a ways...

Forget 150 yards..., If I can hit a golf ball consistently at 100 yards with match ammo on a calm day, I'd be very pleased

Chet Punisher · November 25, 2012, 10:04 PM

Savage 93 BTVS in 22 Mag...

50 yards... The fifth shot was to check where I was aiming. I just aimed lower on the graph... Awesome...

Bought it from here:

http://www.jetguns.com/savage-93btvs...at-p-6541.html

SteelChickenShooter · November 25, 2012, 10:11 PM

My Kimber silhouette rifle costing a ballpark $1000 will certainly meet your accuracy needs. It's interesting to me that my (now older) Zastava Charles Daly import will shoot as well with certain selected ammo. And that cost $200, which is well under your pricing goal.

m_liebst · November 26, 2012, 10:34 PM

Chet punisher,

Nice BTVS .22mag, I love the stock style and was interested in the .22lr version. I want a synthetic stock that is weather compatible and slightly lighter though.
Those are pretty guns for the price though. Can I get that same style in synthetic? What pull weight is the accu-trigger set to and how crisp is it?

How are the .22 mag groups at 100 y though?

Chet Punisher · November 26, 2012, 10:46 PM

Well the stock is laminate so it will hold it's own in the weather. I don't think they make it in plastic.

It groups good, but not as good as 50 yards... LOL

I think I have it set right now at around 3.5 lbs.

The accu-trigger is about as good as it gets for under $1000...

They do make it in a .22lr...

In Satinless:

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIBTVS

In Blued:

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIBTV

Yung.gunr · November 26, 2012, 11:17 PM

To me the choice is between the Savage MKII and optics or the CZ 452.

I went with the Savage and cheap scope, VERY happy with it. But.... if I had a little more scratch I wouldve gone with the CZ and then glass.

Specific to your question I really like the Accutrigger.

whitearrow · November 27, 2012, 12:19 AM

another vote for the cz 452. my preference is the 452 american. but, if you want a cz in the 452 flavor you had better get on the stick so to speak as cz had dc'd the 452 action and is replacing it with the new 455. the jury is still out on the 455 as its new anduntested as compared to the been around the block a few times 452 action. i must warn you though. don't buy a cz 452 if you don't have a very strong constitution towards your wallet as they are VERY addictive. i bought my lil boy a cz 452 scout about 2 yrs ago and since then i've brought home 4 more 452 americans. mine will do 1/2" groups with a variety of sub-sonic hp ammo. my personal best 5 shot 50 yd group has been 1/4" with winchester sub-sonic hp.
good luck,

geetarman · November 27, 2012, 09:42 AM

Chet Punisher,

What is the scope you have on that rifle? Looks VERY interesting. That is usually a bad sign for a zero balance CC

robertsig · November 27, 2012, 12:45 PM

CZ 452

No other choices immediately came to mind.

Chet Punisher · November 27, 2012, 03:46 PM

At the time it had a vortex crossfire on it.. It's got a 3-9 now.. The vortex was way overkill on it. Nice, but I have another rifle that needs it more.

wingman · November 27, 2012, 06:42 PM

Honestly I've owned Marlin, Savage and CZ all accurate however the most consistent with match ammo goes to my CZ455, golf ball @100 yards easy.

November 20, 2012, 04:57 PM	#1
m_liebst Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2011 Location: San Francisco Posts: 273	Looking Economically priced rimfire bolt action I'm looking for an out-of-the box accurate boltaction .22lr under 500.00. This being a rifle capable of under 1 MOA accuracy. What are import. factors to consider,- besides ammo choice and sorting? Or am I just expecting too much for the dollar that I want to spend? I was looking at the Savage MK2 TR and was wondering if anyone had any input or experiences with this firearm. (Was actually wondering about the "accu-trigger" and what type of chamber reaming is done to this particular gun. Savage has a tactical version which sports a 16 inch barrel which caught my eye. I obviously can't afford a Sako Finnfire or an Anschutz, but was hoping someone might suggests models that could be of interest to me. Last edited by m_liebst; November 20, 2012 at 05:06 PM.

November 20, 2012, 05:44 PM	#2
alex0535 Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2012 Location: Georgia Posts: 612	I bet you would be able to shoot more accurately at more distance with a Savage 93R17 TR. It is an attractive rifle, and can probably be had for under $500. I had a 93R17, but it was a very basic one though. Was a fine shooter for being as light as it was, probably shot 1 moa. With a heavier barrel I am sure that it would easily shoot sub moa. As far as the accu-trigger, its adjustable and a good trigger system all in all. If you don't mind the extra cost of .17 HMR ammo, it has better ballistics than the .22lr or .22 magnum. I am sure the .22lr from savage is probably very accurate out of the box, but if I was put to a challenge of "lets see who can shoot a golf-ball off a tee from 150 yards first, or with the least number of shots" I would feel like i had a real good chance of doing it on my first shot with a .17 HMR. It wouldn't take me more than 3 shots on a windy day. Hitting a golf ball at 150 yards with a .22 lr, I would not be so confident. Especially if you compared the Savage MK2 TR and the 93R17 TR. The .22lr has its place though, If you want to shoot all day long .22lr all the way. Its much cheaper ammo, and there is a lot of different choices in ammo as well. Last edited by alex0535; November 20, 2012 at 05:50 PM.

November 20, 2012, 06:07 PM	#3
Wallyl Member Join Date: September 8, 2011 Posts: 56	Rimfire bolt action Had the same "bug" a few years ago so I bought me a Marlin 980V...I paid less that $200 for a new one and it is superbly accurate even with bulk ammo. On a good day (no wind and when I am on my game) I can hit a business card sized plate at 100~125 yards with some brands of bulk ammo with it. Then I got lazy and started to get interested again in my Semi-Autos...(no bolt to cycle)...so I don't use it as extensively as I used to. Over the last two years my 10-22 and a Marlin 60 have been used more, but there is no doubt that teh 980V is the most accurate...probably because it has a tigher chamber and a bull-target barrel. I set up my steel plate on a cable---shooting into a sand hill and using a high power scope. I can then see the misses/strikes and correct my aim accordingly. This allows one to quickly determine just how accurate that the ammo is... I used a wide variety and the best was Remington Golden Bullet--of all things.

November 20, 2012, 08:25 PM	#5
geetarman Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,351	There is a lot to like with a CZ 452 Trainer. Nice trigger, great iron sights, nice stock and very accurate. __________________ Geetarman Carpe Cerveza

November 20, 2012, 09:04 PM	#6
mr.t7024 Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2012 Location: Ma, near a brook Posts: 214	.22 under 500 I have a mark II .22 in stainless ad a Savage 93 in 17HMR,both have the Accu Trigger,both are excellent rifles. They are extremely accurate. You will be pleased! BTW Each rifle is under a 5 hundred dollars. Cliff You also need to check out the Marlin line up, also an excellent choice.

November 20, 2012, 11:27 PM	#7
Metal god Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2012 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,021	If accurace is what your going for . The MK11 FV will be just as acurate as the TR for les then half the cost . Add a tacticool stock for $100 http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/TACT-S...-p/600-430.htm And you have a nice bench gun for $325 . I have the FV and the stock on the FV is very hard to get a consistant cheekweld with __________________ http://imageshack.us/a/img191/8878/guns200.jpg Happyness !

November 21, 2012, 04:07 AM	#8
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 11,029	CZ 452 American, no question. Savages and Marlins shoot well but look like a toothache. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Taylor Machine

November 21, 2012, 11:39 PM	#9
Corey Jacobs Junior Member Join Date: November 17, 2006 Posts: 13	CZ 452 all the way. Simply awesome.

November 25, 2012, 07:57 PM	#10
m_liebst Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2011 Location: San Francisco Posts: 273	Thank you all for the great imput. Was considering the .17hmr,... but ammo cost and muzzle report counts it out in a big way for me. I know the .22lr has its limitations but it will fit most of my needs. I'm a bit a fan of the round being that it was the first caliber I've shot as a young kid and that there has been so much development of specialty ammo. The .22lr has come a ways... Forget 150 yards..., If I can hit a golf ball consistently at 100 yards with match ammo on a calm day, I'd be very pleased Last edited by m_liebst; November 25, 2012 at 08:07 PM.

November 25, 2012, 10:04 PM	#11
Chet Punisher Member Join Date: November 25, 2012 Posts: 45	Savage 93 BTVS in 22 Mag... 50 yards... The fifth shot was to check where I was aiming. I just aimed lower on the graph... Awesome... Bought it from here: http://www.jetguns.com/savage-93btvs...at-p-6541.html __________________ My Blog: http://accurateshooting.blogspot.com/

November 25, 2012, 10:11 PM	#12
SteelChickenShooter Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2011 Posts: 587	My Kimber silhouette rifle costing a ballpark $1000 will certainly meet your accuracy needs. It's interesting to me that my (now older) Zastava Charles Daly import will shoot as well with certain selected ammo. And that cost $200, which is well under your pricing goal.

November 26, 2012, 10:34 PM	#13
m_liebst Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2011 Location: San Francisco Posts: 273	Chet punisher, Nice BTVS .22mag, I love the stock style and was interested in the .22lr version. I want a synthetic stock that is weather compatible and slightly lighter though. Those are pretty guns for the price though. Can I get that same style in synthetic? What pull weight is the accu-trigger set to and how crisp is it? How are the .22 mag groups at 100 y though? Last edited by m_liebst; November 26, 2012 at 10:39 PM.

November 26, 2012, 10:46 PM	#14
Chet Punisher Member Join Date: November 25, 2012 Posts: 45	Well the stock is laminate so it will hold it's own in the weather. I don't think they make it in plastic. It groups good, but not as good as 50 yards... LOL I think I have it set right now at around 3.5 lbs. The accu-trigger is about as good as it gets for under $1000... They do make it in a .22lr... In Satinless: http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIBTVS In Blued: http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIBTV __________________ My Blog: http://accurateshooting.blogspot.com/

November 26, 2012, 11:17 PM	#15
Yung.gunr Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2010 Location: Phoenix area Posts: 1,181	To me the choice is between the Savage MKII and optics or the CZ 452. I went with the Savage and cheap scope, VERY happy with it. But.... if I had a little more scratch I wouldve gone with the CZ and then glass. Specific to your question I really like the Accutrigger.

November 27, 2012, 12:19 AM	#16
whitearrow Member Join Date: September 22, 2008 Location: the great state of MS Posts: 78	another vote for the cz 452. my preference is the 452 american. but, if you want a cz in the 452 flavor you had better get on the stick so to speak as cz had dc'd the 452 action and is replacing it with the new 455. the jury is still out on the 455 as its new anduntested as compared to the been around the block a few times 452 action. i must warn you though. don't buy a cz 452 if you don't have a very strong constitution towards your wallet as they are VERY addictive. i bought my lil boy a cz 452 scout about 2 yrs ago and since then i've brought home 4 more 452 americans. mine will do 1/2" groups with a variety of sub-sonic hp ammo. my personal best 5 shot 50 yd group has been 1/4" with winchester sub-sonic hp. good luck, __________________ WhiteArrow->>>-------------------->

November 27, 2012, 09:42 AM	#17
geetarman Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,351	Chet Punisher, What is the scope you have on that rifle? Looks VERY interesting. That is usually a bad sign for a zero balance CC __________________ Geetarman Carpe Cerveza

November 27, 2012, 12:45 PM	#18
robertsig Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 219	CZ 452 No other choices immediately came to mind.

November 27, 2012, 03:46 PM	#19
Chet Punisher Member Join Date: November 25, 2012 Posts: 45	At the time it had a vortex crossfire on it.. It's got a 3-9 now.. The vortex was way overkill on it. Nice, but I have another rifle that needs it more. __________________ My Blog: http://accurateshooting.blogspot.com/

November 27, 2012, 06:42 PM	#20
wingman Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2002 Posts: 2,070	Honestly I've owned Marlin, Savage and CZ all accurate however the most consistent with match ammo goes to my CZ455, golf ball @100 yards easy.