Wider "Rogers & Spencer" type triggerguard for a 1858 Pietta?

Rachen · November 14, 2012, 04:14 PM

Does anyone commercially make a wider triggerguard for the Pietta 1858 revolver?

The stock triggerguard is nice, but when I am wearing heavy winter gloves it is hard to put my finger in there without touching the trigger, and when my finger goes in there, the hammer is 99% of the time cocked and ready to fire. And with 400+ foot-pounds of energy inside waiting to be released, touching the trigger is not what I want to do.

Actually, the original 1858s HAD wide triggerguards, I've seen pictures of the old buckaroos who carried them I think they look more rugged and sightly that the brass ones used on the Piettas

I would like it if there is a "Rogers & Spencer" style guard available, in blued. Otherwise I might have to machine my own from some spring steel stock that I have.

Captainkirk · November 14, 2012, 06:27 PM

I'm not aware of one. If you were to cast and machine your own to fit, I would think there might be a small cottage industry available to you for those who have the same problem.
Just a thought.......

mykeal · November 14, 2012, 11:39 PM

Why not just get a Rogers & Spencer? It's a better gun.

Andy Griffith · November 15, 2012, 01:03 PM

I don't know if "better" is a good comparison of one over the other.

Both have advantages and drawbacks...

The R&S does have a bit longer grip, heavier frame, larger arbor, but the short action and the lack of lead into the cylinder notches can make the cylinder skip chambers if actioned briskly- which is a major drawback IMHO. The high hammer and position of it doesn't lend it well for one-handed operation for quick firing either.

In the Remington, the arbor is captive, it is easier to manipulate one-handed, parts and cylinders are much more available and generally cheaper, and it is solid frame.

Both guns are good ones- just personal preference.

Bear River · November 15, 2012, 01:27 PM

The R&S has a smaller center pin or arbor. The R&S has a larger cylinder Boss to retard fouling. The R&S has chamfered chamber mouths to accept the .457 bullets or RBs. The larger .457 swaged to a .453 gives a longer bearing surface allowing accuracy at higher veloicty than a Remington. The R&S has a much improved loading lever latch which Ruger used in the ROA. The very expensive R&S made by DPS is used by the International BP Shooting teams.

bedbugbilly · November 15, 2012, 05:26 PM

Rachen - I don't believe I've ever seen such an animal . . . but agree with you, it would be nice. I'm a thinking you might be firing up your machine tools on this one.

R & S versus Remington . . . . starting to sound like a steel versus brass discussion! LOL

I've got a Euroarms R & S and Remingtons . . . love 'em all . . . but I still love my '51 Navies the best!

Rachen · November 15, 2012, 06:47 PM

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Rachen - I don't believe I've ever seen such an animal . . . but agree with you, it would be nice. I'm a thinking you might be firing up your machine tools on this one.

R & S versus Remington . . . . starting to sound like a steel versus brass discussion! LOL

I've got a Euroarms R & S and Remingtons . . . love 'em all . . . but I still love my '51 Navies the best!

I am starting to make knives, still learning the basics and honing up, no pun intended, what metallurgy skills I already have, so I can definitely turn out some revolver parts as well once I get started under way.

Things like hand springs, bolt springs, etc, those things everybody needs from time to time.

November 14, 2012, 04:14 PM	#1
Rachen Senior Member Join Date: May 10, 2006 Location: I go where the oilfield jobs go. Posts: 311	Wider "Rogers & Spencer" type triggerguard for a 1858 Pietta? Does anyone commercially make a wider triggerguard for the Pietta 1858 revolver? The stock triggerguard is nice, but when I am wearing heavy winter gloves it is hard to put my finger in there without touching the trigger, and when my finger goes in there, the hammer is 99% of the time cocked and ready to fire. And with 400+ foot-pounds of energy inside waiting to be released, touching the trigger is not what I want to do. Actually, the original 1858s HAD wide triggerguards, I've seen pictures of the old buckaroos who carried them I think they look more rugged and sightly that the brass ones used on the Piettas I would like it if there is a "Rogers & Spencer" style guard available, in blued. Otherwise I might have to machine my own from some spring steel stock that I have. __________________ http://unnamed-heroes.com MARTYRS: A story about true love. Every man has something that he is willing to fight to the death for. What about YOU? COMBAT BLADES: http://www.knifecombat.wordpress.com

November 14, 2012, 06:27 PM	#2
Captainkirk Member Join Date: September 21, 2012 Posts: 99	I'm not aware of one. If you were to cast and machine your own to fit, I would think there might be a small cottage industry available to you for those who have the same problem. Just a thought....... __________________ "You gonna pull those pistols, or whistle Dixie?"

November 15, 2012, 01:03 PM	#4
Andy Griffith Senior Member Join Date: May 14, 2009 Location: Macon Co. NC Posts: 520	I don't know if "better" is a good comparison of one over the other. Both have advantages and drawbacks... The R&S does have a bit longer grip, heavier frame, larger arbor, but the short action and the lack of lead into the cylinder notches can make the cylinder skip chambers if actioned briskly- which is a major drawback IMHO. The high hammer and position of it doesn't lend it well for one-handed operation for quick firing either. In the Remington, the arbor is captive, it is easier to manipulate one-handed, parts and cylinders are much more available and generally cheaper, and it is solid frame. Both guns are good ones- just personal preference. __________________ Barney Fife: "Nip it, nip it, nip it!" Andy Griffith:"Oh now Barn'...."

November 15, 2012, 05:26 PM	#6
bedbugbilly Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2009 Posts: 1,318	Rachen - I don't believe I've ever seen such an animal . . . but agree with you, it would be nice. I'm a thinking you might be firing up your machine tools on this one. R & S versus Remington . . . . starting to sound like a steel versus brass discussion! LOL I've got a Euroarms R & S and Remingtons . . . love 'em all . . . but I still love my '51 Navies the best! __________________ If a pair of '51 Navies were good enough for Billy Hickok, then a single Navy on my right hip is good enough for me . . . besides . . . I'm probably only half as good as he was anyways. Hiram's Rangers Badge #63

November 14, 2012, 11:39 PM	#3
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,631	Why not just get a Rogers & Spencer? It's a better gun.

November 15, 2012, 01:27 PM	#5
Bear River Member Join Date: May 20, 2010 Location: The Cowboy State Posts: 45	The R&S has a smaller center pin or arbor. The R&S has a larger cylinder Boss to retard fouling. The R&S has chamfered chamber mouths to accept the .457 bullets or RBs. The larger .457 swaged to a .453 gives a longer bearing surface allowing accuracy at higher veloicty than a Remington. The R&S has a much improved loading lever latch which Ruger used in the ROA. The very expensive R&S made by DPS is used by the International BP Shooting teams.