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Old August 5, 2012, 01:40 PM   #26
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A 1965 Model 94's worth no more than $300, tops.

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Old August 7, 2012, 03:20 PM   #27
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I think location has a lot to do with that. They may not bring but 300 where you are but here a real nice one will bring 400 or more.
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Old August 8, 2012, 10:45 AM   #28
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NIB 94s

I came across a number of NIB 94s that are part of an estate sale. Any speculation as to Fair Market Value.

1. 20" blue 44mag Ser# 635XXXX

2. 16" Brushed 44mag "Trapper" w/saddle ring Ser# 639XXXX

3. 9422 w/crossbolt safety

Waiting for them to set pricing.

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Old August 8, 2012, 07:33 PM   #29
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Old August 10, 2012, 11:58 AM   #30
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Winchester

Hi yall, I new here and Im hoping you all can help me out. I have a Winchester model 94AE 30-30 serial #6378871 that is unfired and all stainless steel with short tube and synthetic furniture.

I cant find squat on this (thats why I bought it).... Any Ideas??
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Old August 12, 2012, 10:52 AM   #31
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While Winchester has barreled Model 94's with stainless steel barrels (early 20th Century), they've NEVER made a Model 94 entirely of stainless steel.

What Winchester has done, however, is to finish some Carbon steel models to look like stainless steel (or pewter, or Silver).

Winchester also made a few Brushed Chrome (finish) 94 Trapper's, with synthetic stocks for a S.H.O.T. show (IIRC), sometime around 1999 - your 94AE might possibly be one of those (a call to Winchester with the SN might tell you)

Also, If a bbl is stamped "proof steel", it is not stainless steel.

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Old August 13, 2012, 12:25 PM   #32
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Wow!! You are a wealth of knowledge, and it does say "proof steel" on the barrel.
This thing looks to be at 98%+ what would you value it at? Would you shoot it? Or should it be kept in the safe?
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Old August 14, 2012, 11:26 AM   #33
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Well - YMMV.

While I wouldn't take a shiny/silvered gun out hunting, I might shoot one on the range - but who knows ?

If it's one of those "specials" (i.e., verified in writing by Winchester), it could be more valuable to someone who collect such, fired as little as possible.

Keep in mind that NO guns are truely unfired - since the factories usually "proved" them by shooting at least one shot through them. (Some states now require that fired case be kept/sold with the gun for handguns, IIRC)

FWIW, In over 50 years, I've never personally changed/damaged ANY firearm via simply firing it - at least enough that anybody could discern.

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Old August 14, 2012, 10:49 PM   #34
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I have a 1964 model 1894 in very good to excellent condition, and it was manufactured prior to the changes (screw head visible, rounded bottom), it was handed down to me from my father, who purchased it brand new in '64, his first firearm. It is my prized possession, and i was hoping for a very rough (ball park, parking lot of the ball park) estimate on its value to help me to decide whether to insure it or not. Serial number is 2596336, if that is any help. Your assistance is greatly appreciated, whatever the results. Thank you.
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Old August 15, 2012, 06:00 PM   #35
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Winchester had long changed the "Model 1894" label to "Model 94" by the time the 1960's came along.

And, FYI, even though your Dad might have purchased it in 1964, it was most likely "in the pipeline" for awhile before it got to him - SN 2,599,632 is the highest seen & verified pre-64 Model 94, & the factory Polishing Room records list SN 2,599,694 as the last SN made in 1963, so you actually have a 1963 model.

FWIW, The value of ANYthing would be commensurate with it's condition:

A tomato stake per-64 Model 94 might be worth only $100 or so for parts; while a NIB/pristine example worth closer to $500/$600 - although some sellers seem awfully proud of theirs, judging by their asking prices.


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Old August 19, 2012, 09:43 AM   #36
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Thank you for the information, and the SN info is interesting, nice to know that it is actual a '63 model. The value is all sentimental for me, i hope the rifle stays in my family for many years after I'm gone, but my boys are to young to understand this kind of thing as of yet. probably won't worry about insuring it, as according to to the amounts given, it wouldn't be too difficult to replace, should anything (God forbid) ever happen to it. As for condition, i took my cues from the NRA guide. No scarring of the wood and only light wear of the finish around cornered or raised surfaces, no scratches, pitting, rust, or dings. This rifle has been well cared for, and shall continue to be. Thanks again for the info, it is greatly appreciated.
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Old September 7, 2012, 08:25 PM   #37
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I have a model 1894 30-30 with the serial number 12595 waiting for me in my dad's basement. NRA condition is a solid good (did not get a chance to get pictures last time he pulled it out): no rust, wood bruised and scratched with no cracks (it was a daily use saddle gun), action smooth, trigger light and crisp, and the only replacement parts I saw were the "saddle sights" (low profile sights to avoid snagging on a scabbard, patent date 1901 on rear sight). While I have no intention of selling (been in the family since purchase), I am curious as to what it might be worth.
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Old September 11, 2012, 02:23 PM   #38
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1898 Winchester Model 94

Winchester Model 94, SN 142282, Yr of Man. 1898
No saddle ring.
Factory short magazine.
Brass butt-plate.

Trying to figure what the value of this rifle is. Seems to be difficult to find info for pre 64 guns. Spent several hours online and am either missing something or just not bright enough (no comments!) to find something other than vague info. Don't really want to get the museum at Cody involved as of yet, $60, yea, I know, I'm cheap!

Pics are attached.

Appreciate any information and help I can get. Thanks in advance.
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Old September 11, 2012, 04:06 PM   #39
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OK, kentjome. Looks to me like you have a parts gun: either a carbine with a rifle stock or a rifle with a carbine forearm and barrel (my guess is this one), and from the magazine cap it looks like a cut and repaired magazine tube. Looks like a post-war barrel based on the sight. It never had a saddle ring. I have never seen an original brass buttplate on an 1894, and it doen't look like brass in the pics. Unless I am missing something, it is a shooter, value about $350-$400. But it is hard to get a real good look at it from pics.
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Old September 11, 2012, 04:31 PM   #40
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Scorch, what if the rifle would have had a full length magazine? would it be better?
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Old September 12, 2012, 12:29 AM   #41
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Factory half mags or 2/3 mags had a domed "button" end, from the pics yours looks like a flat end. So either a full length magazine tube or the right magazine cap would be better. But the issue of the mismatched parts will count against that gun either way. From the looks of the front sight base, it has a post-war (produced after WW2) carbine barrel on it the original barrel for an 1898 rifle would have been different. If so, look at the underside of the barrel about 2"-3" from the muzzle it may have a small notch where the other barrel band would have been. It has a carbine forearm and a rifle buttstock (I would guess this repair was done by someone who could not cut the notch for a barrel tenon used to hold the rifle forend on or who had a carbine barrel and forearm sitting close at hand). Remember, many old Winchesters were working guns, not collector items until recently.

Without the letter frorm the Buffalo Bill museum, you would not know which it was, so you would not know which way to repair it (whether to repair it to look like a carbine or a rifle).
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Old October 10, 2012, 06:47 PM   #42
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Seeking MFG date Info on 94AE SN#9,400,361

Was just offered one for $375 in excellent cond. Blue 20 inch with light glossy wood stock. What does anyone think? Should I go for it?:confused. PS. It has cross bolt safety.

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Old November 12, 2012, 06:50 PM   #43
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Model 1894 age and value?

Good evening,

I am new to this forum but see a lot of very good information being given by experts on these older weapons. Like others I have a question on the date of manufacture for my fathers Model 1894 Winchester. It is a 30 WCF and the serial number is 198873. From the databases I have found, some say they are not that accurate, I have come up with a "made in 1900" date.
Does that sound accurate to you folks? If I can figure out how to put a picture on here, I would love a guesstimate evaluation of the possible worth.

Thank you very much for any information you can offer
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Old November 13, 2012, 03:27 AM   #44
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Yes, it looks like a 1900 manufacture date is right.

FWIW, the serial number discrepancies are between the polishing room records (pre-assembly) and the shipping records (after assembly, often quite some time after assembly). Some experts like the polishing room records, mainly because polishing was one of the last steps in manufacturing before bluing and assembly, so it gives a pretty good idea of when a firearm was assembled. One problem with Winchester is that they would produce receivers in batches, then they drew from those batches (not always in order) during assembly. Also, custom firearms and special production firearms would be produced and stored for quite some time without wood because the wood would be special ordered by the customer. In either case, I think the numbers are probably close enough, it gives you an idea of when the firearm was produced.
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Old November 13, 2012, 10:12 AM   #45
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Seeking MFG date Info on 94AE SN#9,400,361
Was just offered one for $375 in excellent cond. Blue 20 inch with light glossy wood stock. What does anyone think? Should I go for it?:confused. PS. It has cross bolt safety.
You might want to double-check that rifle's SN.

AFAIK, Winchester 94AE SN's stopped in the 6,800,000 range in 2006.

Crossbolt safeties were only used from 1992 (near SN 6,000,000) to 2003 (near SN 6,450,000) before the CBS was discontinued in favor of a tang-top safety.


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Old November 13, 2012, 10:31 AM   #46
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I have a Model 94 that was bought new in about 1951 that's been on who knows how many deer hunts and has killed a lot of whitetails. It shows its history although I refinished the stock (it's got a surprisingly good figure I discovered after I stripped it to the wood) and redid a small compass that was inlet into the stock after the gun's original owner (my dad's best friend since the 1930s and the CCC) got lost on a watch-drive in the Adirondacks in about 1955. He still got lost more than a few times. Collected all together the stories attached to this rifle would fill a book and be a pretty good history of my family and close friends for the last 60-odd years. I don't care what the gun's market value is, not much probably, it's a family heirloom and the memories that play when the gun is handled are priceless.

I have a Model 70 in .300 H&H Magnum from the same era that has a lot of stories attached to it as well, like the moose it killed in the Yukon having its head mounted and shipped home for a lot of money, only to find the only place it would fit was in the garage. It's priceless to us as well (the rifle, not the moose head which was donated to the local gun club).
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Old November 14, 2012, 08:44 AM   #47
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If only the guns could speak (sigh)............




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Old January 15, 2013, 05:10 PM   #48
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Third gen '94 Hand me down

I have a '94 model 25-35 thats 75% blue and is serial number 22448. Guessing its second year production first year 25-35.

Anyone have a good contact or info on it?

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Old January 16, 2013, 11:34 AM   #49
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FWIW:

The first Model 1894 RIFLE in .25-35 by date is SN 5014, and went to the warehouse 7/18/95 & shipped the same day.

The first Model 1894 CARBINE in .25-35 is SN 6506, and was sent to the warehouse 10/1/95 & shipped 10/3/95.



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Old January 16, 2013, 12:30 PM   #50
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Appreciate the data, this is helpful.

Someone once told me that there is a repository for the original records, Cody or something. Yours appears pretty definite. Is there a contact that I might be able to converse with to find out more info on my particular serial number?

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