I.D. my cap & ball revlver please?

buymore · August 19, 2012, 12:32 PM

I tried to show some of the proof marks. It only says "Black Powder Only cal 44 Made in Italy on the barrel" I believe it's an 1860 Army? Not sure what version and wanted to know who made it. I took this on trade and want to sell it, but want it to be a fair price and these BP revolvers seem to be all over the place. Serial D95397

brushhippie · August 19, 2012, 01:38 PM

Looks like an ASM (Armi San Marco) 1860 Army....didnt see a date code, it will be a 2 letter code on the right side under the cylinder.

Doc Hoy · August 19, 2012, 01:42 PM

I have two of these n brass but none in steel.

You have a nice revolver.

Photos portray a pistol in pretty darned good shape.

buymore · August 19, 2012, 02:24 PM

I see a BD there....is that the date code? It has a very light trigger. From what I'm reading, it could need a replacement? It seems like people say the parts aren't hardened and the trigger parts need replaced with good ones.

I guess I will probably list it later for around $125 shipped or so and start there and see if any offers. Thanks for helping ID it for me.

brushhippie · August 19, 2012, 02:33 PM

Ah I do see that now that would make it a 94, I was thinking they were out of business by then but not sure.

Fingers McGee · August 19, 2012, 04:52 PM

Definitely an Armi San Marco made in 1994. In 98% condition, worth about $225

ASM didn't go out of business tll 2000 Brushie

Doc Hoy · August 19, 2012, 05:06 PM

They were making revolvers at least as late as 94. This would be the second I have encountered from that year.

The ones I have presently run from AA to AT.

The two brass 1860s do not have a date code.

Buymore,

I believe you should have no trouble getting 125.00 for the pistol even considering the light trigger pull. BTW I have seen 1860 Uberti's which have the same problem. I would take it myself but I am concentrating on cartridge revolvers right now.

I have replaced internal parts with Pietta parts from Cabela's with success.

brushhippie · August 19, 2012, 06:30 PM

Thanks Mr Fingers! The more I learn about BP revolvers the more I want to know!

Shotput79 · August 19, 2012, 11:24 PM

Did you post a pic of this pistol cause I seem to be missing something here.

Fingers McGee · August 19, 2012, 11:58 PM

The OP had pictures shotput

buymore · August 20, 2012, 04:56 PM

when I tried to list it in the FOR SALE section, it wouldn't let me put pics in that post unless I removed them from here. It said they were already posted, so it wouldn't let me. Sorry...not meant to confuse the help! lol

sebou · August 21, 2012, 02:42 PM

hi
Uberti use too the letter before the serial number.....

Seb

August 19, 2012, 12:32 PM	#1
buymore Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2007 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 255	I.D. my cap & ball revlver please? I tried to show some of the proof marks. It only says "Black Powder Only cal 44 Made in Italy on the barrel" I believe it's an 1860 Army? Not sure what version and wanted to know who made it. I took this on trade and want to sell it, but want it to be a fair price and these BP revolvers seem to be all over the place. Serial D95397 Last edited by buymore; August 19, 2012 at 09:02 PM.

August 19, 2012, 01:38 PM	#2
brushhippie Junior member Join Date: June 4, 2012 Posts: 70	Looks like an ASM (Armi San Marco) 1860 Army....didnt see a date code, it will be a 2 letter code on the right side under the cylinder. Last edited by brushhippie; August 19, 2012 at 01:44 PM.

August 19, 2012, 01:42 PM	#3
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 3,421	Brushhippie + 1 I have two of these n brass but none in steel. You have a nice revolver. Photos portray a pistol in pretty darned good shape. __________________ Doc My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson

August 19, 2012, 04:52 PM	#6
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,734	Definitely an Armi San Marco made in 1994. In 98% condition, worth about $225 ASM didn't go out of business tll 2000 Brushie __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

August 19, 2012, 05:06 PM	#7
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 3,421	BP They were making revolvers at least as late as 94. This would be the second I have encountered from that year. The ones I have presently run from AA to AT. The two brass 1860s do not have a date code. Buymore, I believe you should have no trouble getting 125.00 for the pistol even considering the light trigger pull. BTW I have seen 1860 Uberti's which have the same problem. I would take it myself but I am concentrating on cartridge revolvers right now. I have replaced internal parts with Pietta parts from Cabela's with success. __________________ Doc My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson

August 19, 2012, 02:24 PM	#4
buymore Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2007 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 255	I see a BD there....is that the date code? It has a very light trigger. From what I'm reading, it could need a replacement? It seems like people say the parts aren't hardened and the trigger parts need replaced with good ones. I guess I will probably list it later for around $125 shipped or so and start there and see if any offers. Thanks for helping ID it for me.

August 19, 2012, 02:33 PM	#5
brushhippie Junior member Join Date: June 4, 2012 Posts: 70	Ah I do see that now that would make it a 94, I was thinking they were out of business by then but not sure.

August 19, 2012, 06:30 PM	#8
brushhippie Junior member Join Date: June 4, 2012 Posts: 70	Thanks Mr Fingers! The more I learn about BP revolvers the more I want to know!

August 19, 2012, 11:24 PM	#9
Shotput79 Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2011 Location: NC Posts: 171	Did you post a pic of this pistol cause I seem to be missing something here.

August 19, 2012, 11:58 PM	#10
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,734	The OP had pictures shotput __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

August 20, 2012, 04:56 PM	#11
buymore Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2007 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 255	when I tried to list it in the FOR SALE section, it wouldn't let me put pics in that post unless I removed them from here. It said they were already posted, so it wouldn't let me. Sorry...not meant to confuse the help! lol

August 21, 2012, 02:42 PM	#12
sebou Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2010 Location: France Posts: 107	hi Uberti use too the letter before the serial number..... Seb