Citizen Makes 165yd Shot With Revolver to Stop Murderer From Ambushing Cop - Page 3

Double Naught Spy · August 3, 2012, 10:27 PM

If you don't follow Stacy's monologue carefully, though he tries to cover for it, his use of pronouns (everyone is he, him, etc.) make things confusing. He notes his AR15, which was the officer's, but it sounds like it is Conner's if you don't listen closely.

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Can't tell from the photos but looks like the park is barely 100 yards from farthest end to farthest end and you could be right about it being feet instead of yards.

And given the concentration of photos and police activity, it looks like a large area of the event too place in the central area which isn't too far from all other areas.

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Even if it was only 165ft instead of yards, 165yds is still very doable with a 5" barreled 357 or a 45 auto if the shoot knows his gun, and has taken a few long shots before.

Right, we all know it can be done, but the question is if he actually did it. He claimed he did, but isn't panning out.

ClydeFrog · August 4, 2012, 03:59 AM

As a teen, my unkle(a WW2 veteran who served in the US Army Air Corps/USAF) explained to me that in combat, he packed a M-1 carbine over a 1911a1 .45acp. He was issued both weapons as a aircrew NCO(Staff Sgt/E-6).
My unkle said he considered a .45acp 1911a1 pistol or S&W model 10 .38spl revolver to work best at close range only; 0-20 yards. He carried a M-1 because he could engage enemy targets at extended ranges.

I also read a few magazine articles by gun writer & retired police officer; Evan Marshall(Detroit MI police department) where he advised if you know you will be in a gunfight or could be in a use of force incident to get a shotgun or rifle.

rebs · August 4, 2012, 08:07 AM

The citizen needs to be recognized as the hero he is.

This is a classic example of a private citizen helping out a LEO in need. This would go a long way in helping to protect our second amendment rights if it made national news. But you won't see it there.

bikerbill · August 4, 2012, 11:08 AM

I live in Travis County and had not heard about this shooting ... thanks for passing on the evidence once again that armed citizens can make a difference ... good on the citizen who aided the arriving officers and good on the police for praising his actions ...

Archer 9505 · August 4, 2012, 12:36 PM

Someone on another forum located this for me.

Winchester_73 · August 5, 2012, 02:35 PM

With a 5 in 357, evidently it was not a Python. Wow. Who would think someone could shoot like that without the greatest 357 ever made

Nanuk · August 5, 2012, 07:00 PM

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With a 5 in 357, evidently it was not a Python. Wow. Who would think someone could shoot like that without the greatest 357 ever made

He did it was an N frame Smith and Wesson.

Archer 9505 · August 6, 2012, 10:44 AM

Some long range pistol shooting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKFSN8Z9RnI

doofus47 · August 7, 2012, 11:10 AM

An engaged citizen who was prepared. It takes just one to make a convincing argument for an armed citizenry!

ltc444 · August 8, 2012, 12:13 AM

Some thoughts:

1. The civilian did better than most LEOs no matter than what the range.
2. He had to be a very cool customer to make the hit.
3. He should be commended

When I was shooting LR Pistol, I routinely made 100 meter shots on the old Canadian Bull targets. My best group was from a 4" trooper in 357mag. I shot single action from a sitting position braced against the wheel of a car. I placed 5 146 grain Speer JHP in the black spot on the target after 1 spotting round which hit the top of the target. I don't remember the exact load but I used WW296 with a heavy roll crimp. Hold over was approximately 24 inches.

BlueTrain · August 8, 2012, 07:21 AM

I couldn't make hits like that at 165 feet with a rifle!

shep854 · August 8, 2012, 07:43 AM

Archer, thanks for posting that chart. I see some challenging (and possibly useful) fun at the range!!

Rachen · August 8, 2012, 05:53 PM

Incredible story!!!

It made my day so much I was smiling the whole time. This is EXACTLY what the 2nd Amendment was written for, and this hero set one hell of an excellent example during that incident.

Now if major media outlets across the nation would report on it and bring some positive light on the gun culture?

We really need some good reporting right now especially after all that madness this past few weeks.

On the subject of the shot? Yes it could be done, especially given the fact that it was a .357 Magnum.

Ed McGivern had hit up to 800 yards with a .44 Magnum revolver back in the 1950s. And I have hit targets from 100 to 200 yards away with my .44 LeMat. It is all about compensating for the drop during the shot.

August 4, 2012, 03:59 AM	#52
ClydeFrog Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 3,836	Pistols, rifles, Evan Marshall.... As a teen, my unkle(a WW2 veteran who served in the US Army Air Corps/USAF) explained to me that in combat, he packed a M-1 carbine over a 1911a1 .45acp. He was issued both weapons as a aircrew NCO(Staff Sgt/E-6). My unkle said he considered a .45acp 1911a1 pistol or S&W model 10 .38spl revolver to work best at close range only; 0-20 yards. He carried a M-1 because he could engage enemy targets at extended ranges. I also read a few magazine articles by gun writer & retired police officer; Evan Marshall(Detroit MI police department) where he advised if you know you will be in a gunfight or could be in a use of force incident to get a shotgun or rifle.

August 4, 2012, 11:08 AM	#54
bikerbill Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2007 Location: Lago Vista TX Posts: 2,134	I live in Travis County and had not heard about this shooting ... thanks for passing on the evidence once again that armed citizens can make a difference ... good on the citizen who aided the arriving officers and good on the police for praising his actions ... __________________ "The gun has been called the great equalizer ... It insures that the people are the equal of their government whenever that government forgets that it is servant and not master of the governed." --Ronald Reagan

August 5, 2012, 02:35 PM	#56
Winchester_73 Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2008 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,598	With a 5 in 357, evidently it was not a Python. Wow. Who would think someone could shoot like that without the greatest 357 ever made __________________ Winchester 73, the TFL user that won the west

August 6, 2012, 10:44 AM	#58
Archer 9505 Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2010 Location: Maine Posts: 213	More long range pistol shooting Some long range pistol shooting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKFSN8Z9RnI __________________ NRA Life Member "An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will" It's a free country; in a free country, freedom is for more than just those that conform to the accepted.

August 8, 2012, 07:21 AM	#61
BlueTrain Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 5,809	I couldn't make hits like that at 165 feet with a rifle! __________________ Shoot low, sheriff. They're riding Shetlands! Underneath the starry flag, civilize 'em with a Krag, and return us to our own beloved homes! Buy War Bonds.

August 4, 2012, 08:07 AM	#53
rebs Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 1,583	The citizen needs to be recognized as the hero he is. This is a classic example of a private citizen helping out a LEO in need. This would go a long way in helping to protect our second amendment rights if it made national news. But you won't see it there.

August 7, 2012, 11:10 AM	#59
doofus47 Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: live in a in a house when i'm not in a tent Posts: 916	An engaged citizen who was prepared. It takes just one to make a convincing argument for an armed citizenry!

August 8, 2012, 12:13 AM	#60
ltc444 Senior Member Join Date: March 3, 2011 Location: Vernon AZ Posts: 1,192	Some thoughts: 1. The civilian did better than most LEOs no matter than what the range. 2. He had to be a very cool customer to make the hit. 3. He should be commended When I was shooting LR Pistol, I routinely made 100 meter shots on the old Canadian Bull targets. My best group was from a 4" trooper in 357mag. I shot single action from a sitting position braced against the wheel of a car. I placed 5 146 grain Speer JHP in the black spot on the target after 1 spotting round which hit the top of the target. I don't remember the exact load but I used WW296 with a heavy roll crimp. Hold over was approximately 24 inches.

August 8, 2012, 07:43 AM	#62
shep854 Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2004 Location: Birmingham AL Posts: 521	Archer, thanks for posting that chart. I see some challenging (and possibly useful) fun at the range!! __________________ Powder smoke- The Smell of FREEDOM! I don't shoot to kill; I shoot to live. Registration? NEVER!!

August 8, 2012, 05:53 PM	#63
Rachen Senior Member Join Date: May 10, 2006 Location: I go where the oilfield jobs go. Posts: 311	Incredible story!!! It made my day so much I was smiling the whole time. This is EXACTLY what the 2nd Amendment was written for, and this hero set one hell of an excellent example during that incident. Now if major media outlets across the nation would report on it and bring some positive light on the gun culture? We really need some good reporting right now especially after all that madness this past few weeks. On the subject of the shot? Yes it could be done, especially given the fact that it was a .357 Magnum. Ed McGivern had hit up to 800 yards with a .44 Magnum revolver back in the 1950s. And I have hit targets from 100 to 200 yards away with my .44 LeMat. It is all about compensating for the drop during the shot. __________________ http://unnamed-heroes.com MARTYRS: A story about true love. Every man has something that he is willing to fight to the death for. What about YOU? COMBAT BLADES: http://www.knifecombat.wordpress.com