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Old July 27, 2012, 08:40 PM   #1
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243 load help

Ok Im new to rifle loading and kinda confused on some things. I want a 243 load for a small kid to shoot that wont kick hard. What do I need to look for in reloading data.Do I want something in a higher or lower grain bullet or lower velocity? Or a lower pressure or less grains of powder? ANother words I guess is what makes the kick worse?
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Old July 27, 2012, 08:47 PM   #2
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I know it doesnt make sence but usually the bigger the bullet the harder the kick, even though there is usually less powder loaded for the bigger bullet than the smaller one. Ther will be more help come along soon good luck
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Old July 27, 2012, 08:51 PM   #3
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The Chuck Hawks site lists a couple of reduced recoil loads for .243.

.243 Winchester - 80 grain Rem. PSP bullet, 25.5 grains SR 4759 powder, Rem. 9 1/2 primer, Remington case. COL 2.640". MV 2710 fps in 24" test barrel. MAP 51,300 CUP. (Based on the IMR Smokeless Powder Reloader's Guide, April 2004.)

.243 Winchester - 100 grain Speer BT bullet, 29.0 grains H414 powder, Rem. CCI 250 primer, Winchester case. COL 2.635". MV 2270 fps in 22" barrel. (Based on the Speer Reloading Manual No. 13.)

Take it for what it is. Internet reloading data.

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Old July 27, 2012, 09:25 PM   #4
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Harley,

If this is just for target shooting training and not for trying to take a deer or anything bigger than a rabbit, buy some IMR Trail Boss powder and light bullets. The data is here. It'll be like shooting a double or triple .22 Rim Fire, but way less than a normal round.
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Old July 27, 2012, 10:05 PM   #5
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Actually I should have said Im looking for something they could kill a deer with. Thanks
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Old July 27, 2012, 10:05 PM   #6
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FWIW, my 7 years old son handles a 75gr Speer FBHP under a full load of IMR7828 just fine. 100 grainers are a little too much for him.

The 243Win is an overbore cartridge and does very well with slow powders.

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Old July 27, 2012, 10:18 PM   #7
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You didn't tell us what he'll be shooting, but my boys do pretty well with their short 20" Handi Rifle loaded with 42-44 grs. of IMR 4350 and a Sierra 85 gr. BTHP shot through the lungs.

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Old July 27, 2012, 10:31 PM   #8
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The 85gr Sierra GK works great on whitetails. Very light recoil.

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Old July 28, 2012, 12:14 PM   #9
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I load the Speer 80 grain spitzer over 44.0 of H414/WW760 with standard primers. It's my coyote load, but if a fat spike steps out, I have no compunctions about laying one in his ear or neck. Horns don't eat good no matter how you cook them; the butter in the pan and salt and pepper make up for the space on my wall.
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Old July 28, 2012, 12:56 PM   #10
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Heavier bullets will recoil more than light bullets in my experience. And of course the more powder you have with each bullet weight, the more recoil. I say with each bullet weight because an 80gr bulletloaded with 47gr powder will still recoil less than a 100gr bullet loaded with 44gr even though it has less powder.

But since you want to take a deer, you cant just load up some 55gr'ers and call it good. The recoil would be mild, but it would be far from ideal for a deer. From what I have heard, 80gr is about as low as you want to go.
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Old July 28, 2012, 01:06 PM   #11
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Coupla questions? What is a small kid? My grandsons age 8-13 all shoot my .308s just fine. After explaining recoil and how rifles work, they revel in the ability to control a full size rifle.

Second, the .243 is a wonderful youth cartridge as-is. I've settled on one load for mine, the 100 grain Hornady bullet and Reloder 22 powder. It's a full-house load, but it recoils much less than my .308 loads.

If the young-un is able to hold the rifle to his shoulder without assistance, he should be able to handle a .243 with factory ammo. If not, then maybe he should wait a year or two.
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Old July 29, 2012, 12:15 PM   #12
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Speer #14 recommends Accurate 5744 for reduced .243 Win loads. 21-23 grains behind a 90 grain Spitzer SP to get 2105 and 2273 fps, respectively. That's going to be about as fast at 50 yards as a full powder load behind the same bullet would be at 300 yards, so it should take deer at common wooded area ranges. You won't want them trying long range shots in the beginning anyway.

If you feel you need a little more oomph than that, Hodgdon has quite a number of H4895 loads, all of which Hodgdon says can be reduced to as little as 60% of what's listed. You could adjust with that powder until you think the rifle feels about right for them, then check what you are getting with a chronograph.
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Old July 31, 2012, 08:29 PM   #13
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I load up the Hornady 95 gr sst with 41.8 grns of h4831, very accurate in our stevens and savage axis 243`s, these are the rifles my wife and two sons shoot (13 and 15 ) my 12 year old daughter will be deer hunting for the first time this year and i am confident she too will shoot this load just fine. the 95 gr sst is very deadly on deer and accurate as well. i dont have a chrono or any of that equipment so i cant give any type of speeds or anything like that, i research the loads im interested in then load some up and take it out and shoot it, the first time i loaded this round i shot it thru the stevens 243 and at 100 yrds i could cover the first three rounds with a quarter, loaded three more and did the same thing again,,if it aint broke dont fix it, so i havent done any other loads very minimal recoil, try it i think you`ll like it
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Old August 6, 2012, 08:24 PM   #14
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My father and I have always used an 87gr BTHP. I don't remember the load right now but the bullet would totaly break up and would do big damage to the lungs and hart. 95% of the deer I shot literally would be knocked off their feet, like you body slammed them. It had a kick, but nothing like Dad's 30-06.
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