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Old May 14, 2012, 09:26 PM   #1
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In over my head

All right all you experienced people out there...

I have set out on my own and am learning the art of reloading after I had a ridiculous six months and purchased a Mosin, an Arisaka, 1903 Springfield, Mauser, and Enfield. Once I started I could not stop.

I am reloading for them and tried out the famous 16gr 2400 load with sierra 150 gr sptzr. At 100 yards I was shooting like a foot or two low? What did I do wrong?

Also, the accuracy on my Enfield is ridiculous. The front sight looks slightly bent to the left??? but not sure. Are these replaceable or adjustable?

Just hoping to connect with some serious expertise on this forum and learn the art of reloading for these rifles.
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Old May 14, 2012, 09:51 PM   #2
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Come and join us at the Enfield forum in my signature - if you search our forum you will find many answers regarding stocking up and accurizing an Enfield.

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Old May 14, 2012, 09:57 PM   #3
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I am reloading for them and tried out the famous 16gr 2400 load with sierra 150 gr sptzr. At 100 yards I was shooting like a foot or two low? What did I do wrong?
You're using that load for all of those rifles?
All of the rifles shoot about 2" low?
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Old May 14, 2012, 10:17 PM   #4
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16gr 2400 load
Giving what muzzle velocity? (Betcha it ain't anything close to "standard!)

..... If you have a slow bullet, it will fall more at a given range than a fast one, all else being equal, because it is in the air longer, and gravity is pretty darn constant, here on earth.

On what planet do they think that heavy .357 magnum data is a great idea in big milsurp cases?

Where I'm from, 4895 and 4064 are popular in milsurp cartridges.......
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Old May 15, 2012, 08:40 AM   #5
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Ditch the 2400, it's use for those rifle calibers is with cast bullets at lower velocities.
4895, 4064 are good. Varget's a great all propose rifle powder. 4320 and 4895 are my favorites.
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Old May 16, 2012, 11:18 PM   #6
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Can this small voice in the wilderness suggest that getting a decent loading manual might be a good idea? The 7.62x54R might not be in there, but .30-'06, 8x57 and .303 British should be.

Bumnote is right on the 2400 load; it is suitable for cast bullets with gas checks, not for jacketed bullets.

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Old May 16, 2012, 11:35 PM   #7
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Some old guy named Whelen had the idea that a reduced load could be real handy. He used jacketed bullets so as to not mix fouling between lead and copper for light and heavy loads. But he tweaked loads so his light load would shoot to the 200 yard sight setting at maybe 25 yards. Small game hunting.

So the first question to the OP is never mind about WHERE the underloads hit, do they GROUP?
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Old May 17, 2012, 02:50 PM   #8
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Sounds like my story but I'm casting, I did this in a years time I have 9 rifles 3pistols my wife does not get it, I even bought her a 22 for our 30th anniversary and took her to the range LOL.
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Old May 19, 2012, 01:58 PM   #9
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I shoot a 2400 FPS load in my Yugo 24 47, but it takes 44.0 Grains of IMR 4895 to achieve this with a Speer Hotcore 150 Grain Spitzer Bullet.
The 44.0 Grain Powder Charge is the starting load in my Complete Load Book for the 8MM Mauser. Im satisfied with that load, no need to waste more powder in an iron sighted Rifle. To the OP, be carefull with your reloading for the .303 Enfield. The chambers often run a little long on those, and sometimes the headspace is questionable, its best to only full leingth resize new cases, then after firing in your Rifle, neck size only. let the brass expand to fit your chamber, and you will be less likely to rupture cases. Good Luck.
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Old May 20, 2012, 10:50 AM   #10
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I shoot the Mosin 91/30 sporter I modded at 600 yards regularly.

It takes the exact same accuracy load as our .308...

In the .308, we use the 175 grain SMK over 43.5 grains of Varget.

In the 7.62 x 54R, it's the 174 grain SMK (in .311) over the same load.

I prefer the "extreme" powders like Varget, H4350 because they are unaffected by temperature.
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Old May 20, 2012, 05:47 PM   #11
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Can this small voice in the wilderness suggest that getting a decent loading manual might be a good idea? The 7.62x54R might not be in there, but .30-'06, 8x57 and .303 British should be.
Accurate, Hornady and Lyman manuals include all of the above rounds.
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