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Bushnell Trophy 3-9x40 Riflescope DOA 600 Reticle 17 89.47%
Simmons 3.5-10x40 Whitetail Classic 2 10.53%
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Old April 23, 2012, 09:50 PM   #1
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Which of these two scopes for the long haul.....

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...8B&src=tpCtgOp
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http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...53&src=tpCtgOp

No interest in Zeiss,Nikon,Nitrex,Leupold,Konus,etc.
Primary use would be on bolt action rifle in .223,.308 or 30-06
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Old April 24, 2012, 11:00 AM   #2
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Interesting,140 reads and 2 votes.Apparently people think its a joke poll or something. Maybe I'll just get both.
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Old April 24, 2012, 02:11 PM   #3
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Ok, I'll play. Out of those choices, I think you might have better luck with the Bushnell.
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Old April 24, 2012, 08:39 PM   #4
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I'll Play

Of those 2 I would choose the Bushnell. However, My choice would be a Pentax Gameseeker (oh yea that's what I replaced the Bushnell with that came on my Weatherby Vanguard).

I have had a couple of Simmons over the years and they were 'iffy'. Didn't hold zero very well.
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Old April 24, 2012, 11:29 PM   #5
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Bushnell has a much better name. But, my personal experience is that I live my Simmons scope on my .22 bolt rifle and hate the red dot Bushnell on my brother's AR.

I guess sometimes it boils down to luck of the draw..
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Old April 25, 2012, 01:14 AM   #6
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BUSHNELL.

Bushnell gets my vote. I just purchased a very similar scope, the Bushnell Banner 3-9x40 and I'm very pleased with the quality for the price you pay. The optics are very clear and easy to acquire.
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Old April 25, 2012, 05:30 AM   #7
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I have a Whitetail Expedition--but it's the 6.5-20 model. I have had fantastic results with it. I can also say that mine is very durable--I mounted mine on a .50 BMG rifle () and it performed beautifully. They're also inexpensive; you can usually find them on sale for right around $120.00.
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Old April 25, 2012, 01:08 PM   #8
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I think a lot of people reading this are grouping the Whitetail classic with all other offerings from Simmons,but apparently its made in the Phillipines and is a whole different animal.
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Old April 26, 2012, 11:27 AM   #9
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Right or wrong, I'd go with the Bushnell. I have a low dollar one that's not on a gun right now, but it worked Ok when it was. Not a great scope by any means, but it held its zero. I paid a lot more for a scope (Japanese, but will remain nameless) that replaced the Bushnell on the 223, and the more expensive scope did NOT hold zero. The Bushnell was made in the Phillippines.
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Old April 26, 2012, 11:46 AM   #10
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I've owned a lot of cheap scopes over the years and I've only seen 3 fail.... 2 of mine, 1 of my dads. One was a very, very cheap Tasco, 10-40x that lasted 5 years or so, the other was a Bushnell Dusk and Dawn 3-9 that simply couldn't handle the recoil of a 12ga in a lead sled. My dads was a Simmons that he had on his 12ga that was about $39 brand new. That one lasted a SOLID 20 years. It just broke last year and he had it on his gun when I started deer hunting 21 years ago.

I'd probably pick the Bushnell, though I can't say exactly why. I like magnification, so I might pick the Simmons. It's a toss-up.

How's that for ambiguous?
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Old April 27, 2012, 10:55 AM   #11
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For $70, or less..

don't expect any scope to last, "for the long haul".

Sportsman's Guide is selling Pentax Gameseeker scopes, 2 models, for $62.

Whatever you get, it will "last" longer on the .223 (less recoil) than on a .308 or 30-06. That doesn't mean the image will be bright, or have high resolution, or good color definition.

Note that the Bushnell lenses are "multi-coated", not "fully multi-coated". That means that at least the exterior surface of either the objective lens or the ocular lense has at least 2 coats of lens covering. But none of the other lenses have any coating on them at all. RESULT: dim, fuzzy images with poor color separation.

Meanwhile, my Pentax Lightseeker 3-11X43 ($700 MSRP) has seven lens coatings on EVERY surface of EVERY lens. RESULT: Bright, sharp, crisp images from first light to last light, with every color in the rainbow clearly defined.
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Old April 29, 2012, 12:24 PM   #12
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Coated optics means that at least one of the major optical elements has a coating on at least one surface. Fully-coated means that all lenses and glass surfaces have a coating layer. Multicoated means that at least one of the major optical elements in a fully-coated binocular has multiple coatings of antireflective compounds on at least one surface. Fully-multicoated means all glass surfaces have multiple coatings and it is the best kind, resulting in light transmission of 90-95 percent, bright, sharp and contrasty images.
http://www.celestron.com/c3/support3...articleid=1626
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Old April 30, 2012, 07:11 AM   #13
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Neither......Check out Nikon before you buy anything,you might be glad you did..Good luck !
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