22lr Magnum

Walklightly · April 27, 2012, 05:47 AM

First, please don't answer if you really don't know. AKA no Internet experts.

I heard this from an old guy (DOB 1931).

STOP! Before you answer. This is an old gun from when the first 22 magnum's came out.

He told me he has an 8 or 9 shot 22lr magnum revolver.

Well we went back and fourth of the two cal's.

He then said, "Well, that's what the gun said on the side". 22lr Magnum!

If you can't discount that, please..........

Mobuck · April 27, 2012, 06:59 AM

To begin, the 22 magnum(22WRM) case won't fit in a 22lr chamber and the 22lr will split if fired in a magnum chamber(if it fires at all).
There are/have been several revolvers fitted with two cylinders to accomodate both rounds. Some of these might be marked in such a manner.
Another possibility is misinterpretation of the marking. Prior to the 22magnum, some rifles were chambered for the 22WRF(Winchester RimFire). This round has similar case/bullet diameter to the magnum but slighter shorter case. Kind of like the 44 special vs 44 magnum. 22 magnum(22WRM) firearms will fire the 22WRF and this may have been the root of the confusion.

Aguila Blanca · April 27, 2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Walklightly

STOP! Before you answer.

Answer what? You didn't ask a question, you only told a short story.

Are you asking if the old guy could possibly have seen a revolver marked ".22LR Magnum" on the barrel? Unless you (or he) could tell us the make of the revolver, I don't believe anyone can answer definitively. The answer should be "No," because obviously .22LR (Long Rifle) is different from .22WMR (Winchester Magnum Rimfire). The major gun makers were and are careful to mark the caliber (chambering) correctly on their barrels. For example, at the time when .22 rimfire was making the transition from black powder to smokeless, Winchester introduced their Model 1903 semi-automatic carbine. They were concerned enough about mixing up smokeless cartridges with black powder cartridges that they actually came out with a new cartridge that did NOT use a heeled bullet like all other .22 cartridges had used. If they were concerned enough to actually create a different cartridge because of concerns regarding swapping, they certainly would have been careful enough not to put a misleading marking on a barrel.

But ... there were second (and third) tier gun makers in those days just as there are the Ravens and Wilkinsons today. Who knows what some small shop churning out cheap guns might have put on their barrels.

bull bob · April 27, 2012, 02:24 PM

I've never seen one so marked, but... any possibility that it was originally a 22LR revolver that had it's chambers opened up to accept the 22WMR way back when. If that is so, it was at least nice of someone to mark it. I have seen a few 22LR singleshot rifles that had been reamed. Normally if they were sold a while later the new owner knew nothing of the conversion. Just thought.

Walklightly · April 27, 2012, 06:24 PM

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First, please don't answer if you really don't know.

What part of, I don't know, do you understand?

Strafer Gott · April 27, 2012, 06:49 PM

I saw a smith model 34 .22lr bored to .22 magnum. It was barrel marked .22lr. Obviously Smith & Wesson didn't do the work. How Bubbaesque can it get. A model 34 reduced to a POS.

SHNOMIDO · April 27, 2012, 07:21 PM

You have mad attitude

SENTINEL MK IV CALIBER .22 MAGNUM

google that

RamItOne · April 27, 2012, 07:35 PM

Walklightly Typeheavily

If you know the guy have him bring it out

seeker_two · April 27, 2012, 10:22 PM

Either a mis-stamping or a .22lr modified for .22mag....a lot of people have modded Ruger Bearcats to the magnum round....

Hammerhead · April 27, 2012, 10:41 PM

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What part of, I don't know, do you understand?

I have no idea but I'll respond just to tick you off.

gyvel · April 28, 2012, 07:11 AM

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What part of, I don't know, do you understand?

What part of punctuation don't YOU understand?

Salmoneye · April 28, 2012, 07:20 AM

Try decaff...

buck460XVR · April 28, 2012, 12:58 PM

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Try decaff...

.....or maybe anger management. Up to the point where the OP got abusive, I saw only sincere posts in response to the question asked. This, in spite of the vague description of a revolver that the owner can't remember how many rounds it holds, even tho he claims to remember exactly what it says on the barrel.

Aguila Blanca · April 28, 2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Walklightly

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First, please don't answer if you really don't know.

What part of, I don't know, do you understand?

Okay, let's reset.

What -- exactly -- was the question?

Sodbuster · April 28, 2012, 01:32 PM

Tread easily, gents, the OP is a nice guy. I wouldn't have known this but I read his profile.

buck460XVR · April 28, 2012, 02:36 PM

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Tread easily, gents, the OP is a nice guy. I wouldn't have known this but I read his profile.

Yeah, but it also states in his profile.......

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Walklightly has not made any friends yet

.......just sayin'

**Mal H** · April 28, 2012, 03:21 PM

What say we start all over with this one.

Walklightly - you need to have a little more patience before hand with your posting. The way you worded your post is practically an invitation for at least a few snarky replies to it. And, as several have noted, you really didn't ask a question.

Others - please don't purposely add fuel to an already slightly antagonistic thread, it doesn't help at all, and it's not worth the aggravation it causes.

Closed. Walklightly is free to start another thread asking a question about the topic, and is in fact encouraged to do so.

April 27, 2012, 05:47 AM	#1
Walklightly Junior member Join Date: September 28, 2011 Posts: 985	22lr Magnum First, please don't answer if you really don't know. AKA no Internet experts. I heard this from an old guy (DOB 1931). STOP! Before you answer. This is an old gun from when the first 22 magnum's came out. He told me he has an 8 or 9 shot 22lr magnum revolver. Well we went back and fourth of the two cal's. He then said, "Well, that's what the gun said on the side". 22lr Magnum! If you can't discount that, please..........

April 27, 2012, 10:22 PM	#9
seeker_two Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 2002 Location: Deep in the Heart of the Lone Star State (TX) Posts: 1,546	Either a mis-stamping or a .22lr modified for .22mag....a lot of people have modded Ruger Bearcats to the magnum round.... __________________ Proud member of Gun Culture 2.0......

April 28, 2012, 01:32 PM	#15
Sodbuster Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 1999 Location: Gallatin Co MT Posts: 1,248	Tread easily, gents, the OP is a nice guy. I wouldn't have known this but I read his profile. __________________ "...politicians appreciate a phraseology that flatters the masses and offers an excellent opportunity not only for evading responsibility but also for crushing opponents in the name of the people." --- Joseph A. Schumpeter

April 27, 2012, 06:59 AM	#2
Mobuck Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Posts: 1,471	To begin, the 22 magnum(22WRM) case won't fit in a 22lr chamber and the 22lr will split if fired in a magnum chamber(if it fires at all). There are/have been several revolvers fitted with two cylinders to accomodate both rounds. Some of these might be marked in such a manner. Another possibility is misinterpretation of the marking. Prior to the 22magnum, some rifles were chambered for the 22WRF(Winchester RimFire). This round has similar case/bullet diameter to the magnum but slighter shorter case. Kind of like the 44 special vs 44 magnum. 22 magnum(22WRM) firearms will fire the 22WRF and this may have been the root of the confusion.

April 27, 2012, 02:24 PM	#4
bull bob Member Join Date: October 29, 2010 Posts: 72	I've never seen one so marked, but... any possibility that it was originally a 22LR revolver that had it's chambers opened up to accept the 22WMR way back when. If that is so, it was at least nice of someone to mark it. I have seen a few 22LR singleshot rifles that had been reamed. Normally if they were sold a while later the new owner knew nothing of the conversion. Just thought.

April 27, 2012, 06:49 PM	#6
Strafer Gott Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2011 Location: New Mexico Posts: 880	I saw a smith model 34 .22lr bored to .22 magnum. It was barrel marked .22lr. Obviously Smith & Wesson didn't do the work. How Bubbaesque can it get. A model 34 reduced to a POS.

April 27, 2012, 07:21 PM	#7
SHNOMIDO Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 423	You have mad attitude SENTINEL MK IV CALIBER .22 MAGNUM google that

April 27, 2012, 07:35 PM	#8
RamItOne Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2011 Posts: 925	Walklightly Typeheavily If you know the guy have him bring it out

April 28, 2012, 07:20 AM	#12
Salmoneye Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 2011 Location: Vermont Posts: 951	Try decaff...

April 28, 2012, 03:21 PM	#17
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern VA Posts: 14,083	What say we start all over with this one. Walklightly - you need to have a little more patience before hand with your posting. The way you worded your post is practically an invitation for at least a few snarky replies to it. And, as several have noted, you really didn't ask a question. Others - please don't purposely add fuel to an already slightly antagonistic thread, it doesn't help at all, and it's not worth the aggravation it causes. Closed. Walklightly is free to start another thread asking a question about the topic, and is in fact encouraged to do so.