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Old April 21, 2012, 10:13 PM   #1
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Air travel

Anyone have any insight on air travel and firearms, any carrier more gun friendly etc

http://www.511tactical.com/All-Produ.../CAMS-2-0.html





Reading the tsa guidelines I'm not sold on it passing muster

I like this because it has a trapdoor compartment for two rifles plus a ton of room for regular attire for travel.

Thanks

Here's a vid of an earlier model

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Old April 22, 2012, 06:17 AM   #2
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The thread is titled "Air Travel".

That is a broad topic.

Your opening post asks, "Anyone have any insight on air travel and firearms, any carrier more gun friendly etc"

Then you post pics of luggage and a link to 511tactical.com.

Where does one begin to reply? Nothing personal, but I am afraid we will need more focus to proceed.

Let's go with your first real question in your post: Which carrier is most gun friendly. I am unaware of an industry-wide survey of gun-friendly policies in the air travel industry. These days it is governed by policies of the TSA, so you get what you might expect.

There are several members who travel with their firearms and have had good experiences.
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Old April 22, 2012, 08:55 AM   #3
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Yeah from what I've read TSA and airlines are like fed gvt and states, where the TSA sets up their minimum standards but individual airlines can have more strict policies.

As for the two questions in one post I figured a question about luggage for weapons would fit alongside the original question.
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Old April 22, 2012, 09:33 PM   #4
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It would "fit alongside" in a verbal discussion maybe.
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Old April 23, 2012, 01:08 AM   #5
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Alaska Airlines has lots of experience with passengers traveling
with guns. I never heard of anyone having a problem with the,
as long as the rules are observed.
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Old April 23, 2012, 06:22 PM   #6
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Reasonable post to me. Question on gun friendly airlines and luggage for doing so. No different than the hundreds of posts asking which scope should I get and which rings should I use with it. Simpler actually. There aren't nearly as many airlines as scopes.

The TSA requirements say you can check a firearm in a locked hard case alone or in a locked hard case placed in the luggage. You could use that bag, but you would have to put the firearm in a locked hard case first. As stated on the TSA site the individual airlines may have other requirements. Find out where you are going, check for available flights, check the airlines requirements, buy tickets.
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Old April 24, 2012, 12:32 AM   #7
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Yeah, HARD CASE is the requirement, along with a lock ONLY YOU have the key to. No TSA approved locks. I've flown several times by Southwest and I have to say they have their act together regarding flying with firearms. Most other airlines can't make that claim.
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Old April 24, 2012, 04:35 AM   #8
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OK I am going to try to make some sense of this. For the airlines, they are pretty much the same. For the luggage you
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Old April 24, 2012, 04:43 AM   #9
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OK I am going to try to make some sense of this. For the airlines, they are pretty much the same. For the luggage you WILL NEED a completely hard sided case. This case must also be lockable with a key only. (Search Google for airline approved gun/firearm luggage). For your rights, the TSA is NOT allowed to take your gun case and key out of your sight. They will ask you to open it, however they can not take it out of your sight unlocked. I made this point hard because a lot of gun owners do not know the law when it comes to traveling with firearms. You will not be able to carry it on the plain. I know all this because I fly with my firearms all the time, and did the research before I stated doing so.
One more thing expect to be treated like crap at either the beginning of the check in, when you arive at your final destination or both. And when you arive at the airport you MUST take your case to an ailine rep and polity tell them you are traveling with an UNLOADED firearm
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Old April 24, 2012, 06:28 AM   #10
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I went down to my folks ranch in Texas last year and brought along a rifle. Flew Southwest, cheap tickets and gun friendly. You fill out a form and they'll either x-ray the case, like they did at Dulles, or have you open it up with a TSA inspector, like they did with me in San Antonio. Add in some extra time when you arrive at the airport.
I bought a Pelican case. It's cheaper than what you're asking about, hard shell with wheels and even baggage handlers would have a hard time destroying it.
Just a suggestion, get to the baggage claim the moment you land. Don't stop at the restroom, head straight to baggage claim. In San Antonio they held it behind the counter for me, the return trip to Dulles, they put it on the conveyor belt and it was sliding down the chute as I arrived, sometimes they do unload a plane fast. It doesn't take a rocket science to figure out what a rife case looks like and I can't remember the last time anyone checked baggae tags leaving the airport.
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Old April 25, 2012, 12:25 PM   #11
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Quoth masotti: "One more thing expect to be treated like crap at either the beginning of the check in, when you arive at your final destination or both. And when you arive at the airport you MUST take your case to an ailine rep and polity tell them you are traveling with an UNLOADED firearm"

I've checked firearms (pistols, once a rifle) many times over the years, through several airports and on several carriers. I've not once been treated like "crap" either coming or going.

Before arriving I'd always lock slides open so it was obvious even to the casual observer that the firearm isn't loaded. When I got to the airport I didn't do anything special other than letting the agent know I was checking a firearm. I would then open the case and set it on the counter for the agent to see it in its locked open position, fill out the card and slip it in the case, close and lock the case and slip it into my luggage (where my ammo was kept, boxed and not part of any conversation there, just no ammo in the pistol case). My mini-rule was to never touch the weapon while it was exposed. As another poster mentioned after landing I would make a beeline for the front of the luggage.

My experience has been very ho-hum, other than the two times I flew into New Orleans and the carrier lost the baggage with my piece in it.

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