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Old January 29, 2012, 12:58 PM   #1
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Cheap black power (in bulk) or pyrodex?

I was just getting into black powder and I was thinking of buying bulk supplies (everything from powder/balls/caps etc).

I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction as a good bulk (or possibly, depending on amount) wholesale for such items.

It would be much appreciated. Thank you.

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Old January 29, 2012, 01:30 PM   #2
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http://www.powderinc.com/
http://www.jackspowderkeg.com/
Best I've found for bulk prices.
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Old January 29, 2012, 10:21 PM   #3
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The people at Powder Inc are super helpful, extremely nice and very prompt on shipping.
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Old January 29, 2012, 11:42 PM   #4
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Up to 48 pounds of Pyrodex and percussion caps can be shipped for one hazmat fee from Powder Valley Inc.

http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/

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WE CAN COMBINE UP TO 48 LBS. OF POWDER AND PRIMERS UNDER ONE HAZMAT TO SAVE YOU MONEY.
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Old January 30, 2012, 09:52 AM   #5
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The "Pyrodex vs black or other subs" is always a... um... "stimulating" conversation. Personally, I've found it to be extremely hygroscopic/corrosive; much more so than real black or other subs, and I live in a very dry area considered to be more or less desert country.
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Old January 30, 2012, 10:06 AM   #6
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Powderinc. will eat the hazmat on 25lb orders. We did a group buy and got KIK for $10.50.
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Old January 30, 2012, 10:38 AM   #7
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The "Pyrodex vs black or other subs" is always a... um... "stimulating" conversation. Personally, I've found it to be extremely hygroscopic/corrosive; much more so than real black or other subs, and I live in a very dry area considered to be more or less desert country.
It's weird but I live in the humid south and I have no problems with Pyro being corrosive. I'm not anal about cleaning the same day I shoot, never had any rust or corrosion.
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Old January 30, 2012, 02:05 PM   #8
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i've used an awful lot of Pyrodex. Its my opinion that Pyrodex is neither hygroscopic or more corrosive than blackpowder.
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Old January 31, 2012, 02:12 PM   #9
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You guys are lucky. I've had real bad experiences with Pyrodex.
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Old January 31, 2012, 02:53 PM   #10
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Thumbs up to Powder inc. and if you're close to Clarksville Arkansas you can visit and pick it up in person. Super nice folks and they have a great selection of all the powders.
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Old February 1, 2012, 01:00 PM   #11
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Don't buy...

...roundballs in bulk.

Cast your own.
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Old February 1, 2012, 01:01 PM   #12
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I also have had corrosion problems with Pyrodex.

I was new to shooting BP and got back from the range and figured I'd wait before cleaning my cheap-o brass framed 1851 Navy (.44 cal Pietta). Did not get around to it until the following weekend. That thing had rusted like crazy!

I've not seen anything like this with Goex black powder, even when I've waited a couple of days before cleaning.

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Old February 3, 2012, 03:31 PM   #13
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Old February 3, 2012, 04:03 PM   #14
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I let one go nine days after shooting Pyrodex with no rust or corrosion. I generally try to clean the same day but sometimes go two or three days.
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Old February 3, 2012, 04:21 PM   #15
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Not me....

I may be overly attentive, but I barely let one get cool before I am cleaning it. I hate rust. They get cleaned, oiled thoroughly (or maybe even too much) and then back in the safe which has two Rem-Dri bags and a continuous 13w light bulb to keep them at 78°.
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Old February 3, 2012, 05:10 PM   #16
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I've got one I deliberately rusted up for the aged look but generally speaking I don't like rust either. If I had a rusting problem I'd be more anal about cleaning.


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and then back in the safe which has two Rem-Dri bags and a continuous 13w light bulb to keep them at 78°.
Mine get put in a steel cabinet, some are stored in leather holsters which I always heard was a no no too. If it's cold they're cold. If it's hot they're hot.
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Old February 13, 2012, 04:33 PM   #17
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Thanks for the replies, much appreicated.
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Old February 13, 2012, 09:43 PM   #18
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The more I use real black powder, the more I appreciate how terrible it is not. I use real black powder almost exclusively in my muzzleloaders now.
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Old February 14, 2012, 10:13 AM   #19
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I accidently allowed one of my match 1860 Piettas go over 90 days without cleaning. I had broken a handspring, repaired it and put it away with no further thought. Our next two shoots were weathered out. When I got the guns out for the next match I discovered the mistake. I had been shooting GOEX.
Wiped the outside of the gun down with a Ballistol rag. Wiped the face of the cylinder off. Turned a mop in each chamber, pulled a bore snake thru the barrel and I was good to go.
Absolutely no damage.

Oh, yes! This is in southern Missouri and we do understand humidity.
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Old February 25, 2012, 01:15 PM   #20
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Pyrodex is bad!!

DSCN1229 (800x600) (640x480).jpgThis is a photo of my "NEW TTN SXS SHOTGUN" after it was returned from the factory gunsmith for warranty repairs. The shotgun came with very rough chambers and would not shuck fired BP hulls. The smith advised me that he did not load BP shotgun rounds but had a friend who did so that it could be tested before return shipping .
He was located in Illinois and I live in Louisiana. The gun was shipped via UPS and took 5 days to reach my home.
I was in complete shock when I opened the box.
EMF had me send it back and they sent me a new gun. The bluing around both chambers on the outside was even removed with several splotches.
He advised that his friend used Pyrodex rather than any real BP but insisted there was no difference. Just as many of you have. This is not rumor or something I heard but something that happened to me for "REAL".
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Old February 26, 2012, 05:19 PM   #21
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You probably have enough input already but I'll chime in here with my 2 cents worth....

I agree with the school that gives a thumbs down to Pyrodex or any other type of so-called BP substitute. I've never liked it, always had ignition challenges and corrosion afterwards. My second on the products and service provided by the good folks at www.powderinc.com . Never been disappointed by them yet.
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