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Old January 30, 2012, 09:46 AM   #1
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new member i have shot it all laws duce valcon m110a1 duster 155 now i just shoot pistols i need help love 10mm want to shoot 10mm mag out of my TC 16in what bullet powder primer for 200 yrds thanks for any help simper fi
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Old January 30, 2012, 10:28 AM   #2
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your thread was a little tough to follow, but I load & shoot 10 mag & have a custom 10" Contender barrel... if you were talking about shooting 10 mag ???
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Old January 30, 2012, 12:05 PM   #3
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You want Accurate Arms #7 or #9 for your powder, regular large pistol primers, and probably a 180gr JHP bullet of your choice!
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Old January 30, 2012, 01:11 PM   #4
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I are use saw 10mag on the tubes with bollits in are the way tous the kinergarten ragle dos with reding ands calls quits can yoos reds thas stitment
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Old January 30, 2012, 01:17 PM   #5
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^^ really?^^
I had no problem reading what he said...could have used a few comma's... by hey.
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Old January 30, 2012, 02:24 PM   #6
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Punctuation would have been nice, but I didn't have any problems with the OP's meaning either. This is a gun forum, not a grammar forum.

It's easy to pick out that the OP wants to shoot 10mm from a 16" barrel on a T/C. He wants recommendations for powder, primer, and bullets. Not punctuation, grammar, and spelling. Give the guy a break.
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Old January 30, 2012, 02:42 PM   #7
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I wasn't as worried about the punc... didn't really know... what I assume are military rifles ( I guess I recognise "duce" but none of the others )

wasn't sure if the OP wanted to shoot 10mm or actually 10 mag ??? it used to be pretty obscure

I was likely one of the 1st to ever load the mag cartridge, though the Accurate manual was just out & had load recipes in it ( I bought one of the 1st Automag 4's in 10 mm magnum... ( original loadings pretty much recommended Accurate #9 ) I've since loaded several other powders, since I also have a Contender barrel & a S&W 610 that's been chambered for 10 mm magnum, so I shoot that cartridge in 3 different platforms...

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Old January 30, 2012, 04:48 PM   #8
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Accurate Powder data

Accurate Powder's Manual #2 has 2 sets of listings for the 10 mm MAGNUM cartridge. One is for unspecified guns and the other is "for IAI Guns Only." The IAI loads are heavier, with the pressures shown ranging up to 39,000 CUP for the unspecified guns and over 43,000 CUP for the IAI guns. What I show below is 3 loads for each bullet weight, where the first is the "start" load for unspecified guns, the second is max for those guns, and the third is the max for IAI guns, the second and third charges each followed by the pressure. The OALs are the same for the two guns (with one noted exception), and are given last. Cases were Starline.

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NOS 137 JHP:  No.7  15.0,   16.7/37,200,   ND/ND,       1.550"
                    No.9   17.8,  19.8/36,800,  22.5/42,100  1.550" 
 
NOS 150 JHP:  No.7  14.2,   15.8/37,300,   ND/ND,       1.550"
                    No.9   16.7,  18.6/36,300,  21.0/42,600  1.550"

HDY 155 JHP:  No.7   14.0,  15.5/36,000,   ND/ND,       1.555"
                    No.9   16.2,  18.0/36,700,  20.2/40,000  1.555"

NOS 170 JHP:  No.7  13.1,   14.5/36.100,   ND/ND,       1.555"
                    No.9  15.3,   17.0/35,800,  19.2/43,200  1.555" 

SPR 180 JHP:  No.7   13.2,   14.7/37,600,   ND/ND,       1.550"
                    No.9   14.9,  16.6/38,500,  17.5/42,000  1.550" (except 1.555" for IAI)

SRA 190 FPJ:   No.7  12.8,   14.2/39,000,   ND/ND,       1.550"
                    No.9   14.7,  16.3/36,100,  17.5/40,500  1.550"

SPR 200 TMJ:  No.7  12.4,   13.8/37,600,   ND/ND,       1.550"
                    No.9   14.1,  15.7/35,200,  17.0/41,500  1.550"
You will have to decide what pressure to use in a TC. If it is a G2 frame, you are probably OK with the IAI loads. But, if it is the original frame, then you may want to ask TC what pressure they consider OK in CUP. There are some notes in the Accurate manual about TC telling Accurate not to exceed 42,000 psi in Contenders with cartridges that have a head size of the .30-30 Winchester, which is about the same as the various 10mm pistol cartridges. But, I talked to TC about that in the past, and they have no record of telling Accurate that. I also note that TC chambers some cartridges (e.g., the .375 Winchester) that were rated at 52,000 CUP for a case with the same head size. On the other hand, Mike Bellm once had a web "article" about stretching the original Contender frame, and recommended staying under 45,000 psi for a case with the head size of the .444 Marlin and under 47,000 psi for a case with the head size of the .30-30 Winchester. (I don't know what the CUP value is for 45,000 psi. I do know that the .30-30 was rated at 38,000 CUP and 42,000 psi, so MAYBE those values are equivalent.) You can look at the Bellm site here http://www.bellmtcs.com/store/ , but the article I read has been taken down. However, there is another article here that is pertinent http://www.bellmtcs.com/store/index....=pressure&cp=1 .

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