C&R application question

captianpattson · January 20, 2012, 05:51 PM

Hi yall, I've read a dozen or more threads trying to find out the answer to this question. You send a copy of your application to the ATF and one to the police chief. Does the copy you send to the atf NOT need to be signed by the police chief?

RUT · January 20, 2012, 06:00 PM

>>Does the copy you send to the atf NOT need to be signed by the police chief?<<

It does NOT have to be signed by the chief. The copy you give him is a "file" copy only..... for his records.

Don H · January 20, 2012, 06:02 PM

No, it does not. The copy sent to the chief law enforcement officer is informational only and requires no action on his part.

captianpattson · January 20, 2012, 06:24 PM

Am I or the CLEO supposed to check the boxes on item 14?

RUT · January 20, 2012, 06:30 PM

The only Item 14 I see asks if you were discharged dishonorably. If that's the one, naturally you'd answer the question. As stated earlier, the Chief receives the application for "informational" purposes only. (Period!)

emcon5 · January 20, 2012, 06:31 PM

The boxes titles "Applicant Certification" need to be checked by applicant.

Which would be you.

captianpattson · January 20, 2012, 06:48 PM

Thanks for all your help. Either I'm not as intelligent as I think I am or this form is really confusing. I hope the people who writes these forms and 1040 forms aren't the same ones who'll end up writing my mandatory Obamacare forms!

carlie · January 21, 2012, 03:22 PM

In tn. you have to have approval of the planning commission, I don't have any idea why.

RUT · January 21, 2012, 05:16 PM

Yeah, doesn't make any sense considering a C&R license does not involve a place of business or a store front. Go figure.....

Brenden · January 23, 2012, 05:28 PM

Sorry for the hijack but does anyone know about renewing and the CLEO?

The form for renewal asks if a copy of the form has been sent to the CLEO,just a copy of each side?Anything else needed?

Also asks for signature and Title?What does everyone put for title?

Thanks for any info and sorry again for the hijack...

RUT · January 23, 2012, 11:25 PM

Simply send a copy of the application in its entirety. As for title, put "applicant".

Brenden · January 23, 2012, 11:57 PM

Would Collector work for title also?

Also when sending copy, do you send an explanation along with it as is normally done with the original app?

RUT · January 24, 2012, 12:03 AM

Most anything you put down would probably work.... it's not going to make or break the deal one way or the other. No "explanation" needed to the Chief, as he couldn't care less.

Cheapshooter · January 24, 2012, 12:49 AM

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No "explanation" needed to the Chief, as he couldn't care less.

I think it's only required so if the CLEO has a good reason for the license to be denied he can tell BATF about it. In reality, I think most of them file it in the round file cabinet by their desk!

madcratebuilder · January 26, 2012, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by captianpattson

Thanks for all your help. Either I'm not as intelligent as I think I am or this form is really confusing. I hope the people who writes these forms and 1040 forms aren't the same ones who'll end up writing my mandatory Obamacare forms!

I think they have several lawyers working at the "form is really confusing" part. I just renewed my 03 and the "new" form is even more confusing then the old form.

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlie

In tn. you have to have approval of the planning commission, I don't have any idea why.

Back door gun control. They well attempt to control the number of guns in a household, storage of said guns. I just read a article about a neighborhood organization trying to stop a man from selling guns from his house, and not as a business.

Young.Gun.612 · January 28, 2012, 07:45 PM

Since we're all jumping in with questions here, and no one seems to be responding to one I just posted in a thread I started...

Item 9 on the application, is that ONLY if the application is for a business? It says "Provide the information...Responsible Person in the Business (emphasis mine), so do I as an individual need to complete that part of the form? It seems to be the same information as on the top of the application, with a little more info requested (ethnicity, sex, etc.).

Just want to make sure I get this right the first time.

January 20, 2012, 05:51 PM	#1
captianpattson Member Join Date: March 8, 2011 Posts: 35	C&R application question Hi yall, I've read a dozen or more threads trying to find out the answer to this question. You send a copy of your application to the ATF and one to the police chief. Does the copy you send to the atf NOT need to be signed by the police chief? __________________ "...never shot at anybody, if I shoot they get shot!... He's still alive, ain't he?" - Orrin Porter Rockwell

January 20, 2012, 06:00 PM	#2
RUT Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2004 Location: NH, USA Posts: 609	>>Does the copy you send to the atf NOT need to be signed by the police chief?<< It does NOT have to be signed by the chief. The copy you give him is a "file" copy only..... for his records. __________________ "Foreign Aid: The transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries."

January 20, 2012, 06:02 PM	#3
Don H Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 2000 Location: SLC,Utah Posts: 2,706	No, it does not. The copy sent to the chief law enforcement officer is informational only and requires no action on his part. __________________ Don http://www.utahconcealedcarry.com/forum/

January 20, 2012, 06:24 PM	#4
captianpattson Member Join Date: March 8, 2011 Posts: 35	Am I or the CLEO supposed to check the boxes on item 14? __________________ "...never shot at anybody, if I shoot they get shot!... He's still alive, ain't he?" - Orrin Porter Rockwell

January 20, 2012, 06:30 PM	#5
RUT Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2004 Location: NH, USA Posts: 609	The only Item 14 I see asks if you were discharged dishonorably. If that's the one, naturally you'd answer the question. As stated earlier, the Chief receives the application for "informational" purposes only. (Period!) __________________ "Foreign Aid: The transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries."

January 20, 2012, 06:31 PM	#6
emcon5 Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 1999 Location: High Desert NV Posts: 1,299	The boxes titles "Applicant Certification" need to be checked by applicant. Which would be you.

January 20, 2012, 06:48 PM	#7
captianpattson Member Join Date: March 8, 2011 Posts: 35	Thanks for all your help. Either I'm not as intelligent as I think I am or this form is really confusing. I hope the people who writes these forms and 1040 forms aren't the same ones who'll end up writing my mandatory Obamacare forms! __________________ "...never shot at anybody, if I shoot they get shot!... He's still alive, ain't he?" - Orrin Porter Rockwell

January 21, 2012, 03:22 PM	#8
carlie Member Join Date: November 3, 2011 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 35	In tn. you have to have approval of the planning commission, I don't have any idea why.

January 21, 2012, 05:16 PM	#9
RUT Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2004 Location: NH, USA Posts: 609	Yeah, doesn't make any sense considering a C&R license does not involve a place of business or a store front. Go figure..... __________________ "Foreign Aid: The transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries."

January 23, 2012, 05:28 PM	#10
Brenden Member Join Date: February 9, 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 94	Sorry for the hijack but does anyone know about renewing and the CLEO? The form for renewal asks if a copy of the form has been sent to the CLEO,just a copy of each side?Anything else needed? Also asks for signature and Title?What does everyone put for title? Thanks for any info and sorry again for the hijack... __________________ NRA Life Patron Member MGO SAFR JPFO

January 23, 2012, 11:25 PM	#11
RUT Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2004 Location: NH, USA Posts: 609	Simply send a copy of the application in its entirety. As for title, put "applicant". __________________ "Foreign Aid: The transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries."

January 23, 2012, 11:57 PM	#12
Brenden Member Join Date: February 9, 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 94	Would Collector work for title also? Also when sending copy, do you send an explanation along with it as is normally done with the original app? __________________ NRA Life Patron Member MGO SAFR JPFO

January 24, 2012, 12:03 AM	#13
RUT Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2004 Location: NH, USA Posts: 609	Most anything you put down would probably work.... it's not going to make or break the deal one way or the other. No "explanation" needed to the Chief, as he couldn't care less. __________________ "Foreign Aid: The transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries."

January 28, 2012, 07:45 PM	#16
Young.Gun.612 Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2010 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 387	Since we're all jumping in with questions here, and no one seems to be responding to one I just posted in a thread I started... Item 9 on the application, is that ONLY if the application is for a business? It says "Provide the information...Responsible Person in the Business (emphasis mine), so do I as an individual need to complete that part of the form? It seems to be the same information as on the top of the application, with a little more info requested (ethnicity, sex, etc.). Just want to make sure I get this right the first time.