Warning: Lawman Leather

Blue Duck · April 20, 2011, 11:17 PM

I guess this is a Warning/Rant/etc.

Do not order a Lawman Leather Dirty Harry shoulder Holster from Lawman Leather, unless you are willing to wait till maybe forever to get it.

I ordered one last Feb 2010, and of course they wanted my money up front, with a 20 week wait time. Well, it's now been 60 weeks and still no holster, and they refuse to refund my money.

They are full of excusses for the delays, and have promised me just 5 more weeks on several occasions, then I call them back, and it's the same thing again. They are pretty smart about getting your money up front, then promising 20 weeks, as 3 months is a long as you can go back on your credit card to get your money back.

They won't even look up you account to actually tell you where you are in the line up. They give you every excuse in the book. And I am not the only one, just do a search on them, I know I wish I had before I handed over my money.

Anyway, I have held off on blasting them on the internet, but I have had it, and I also don't what anyone else having to deal with this issue. This company advertizes in Guns and Ammo, and has an impressive website, but their business practices are terrible, and I wonder if I will ever see my holster, and they will not refund your money, either.

wildphilhickup · April 20, 2011, 11:40 PM

1 - Contact the USPS and file a compliant.

2 - Contact the AG for their state of residence and file a complaint.

3 - Your credit card company should refund you your $$$, as you NEVER received the item. File a dispute.

4 - For a company to delay shipment beyond 30 days, they must obtain your okay in writing. Otherwise, they are bound by law to refund your $$$.

5 - Contact the BBB in their state and complain.

6 - Contact G&A and complain.

Good Luck!

Blue Duck · April 20, 2011, 11:45 PM

Good advice, I am going to do some of that.

wildphilhickup · April 20, 2011, 11:52 PM

Good.

I have had to do the same. I sent Coyote Cap a $50.00 deposit for an 1887 Lever Action Shotgun. They stated the price would be ~$400. 3 years later they wine and wine and raise the price to ~$650 for the gun. They refuse to refund my $$$. It has been ~6 years now and still no gun or $$$ for me.
We have a written contract. I gave them $50, and they promised the gun for ~$400. The Minnesota AG and the USPS is after them. LOL!

Dave Cole · April 21, 2011, 01:09 AM

Well I guess the moral of this story is not to pay up front.I have seen more customers get ripped off by paying up front, especially when the product has a long lead time.I can see a small deposit to secure the order but a large deposit or total up front is wrong.The only time a larger deposit may be needed is when a high end material needs to be ordered or it is a very custom model which would be hard to sell to another person.Dave

ClydeFrog · April 21, 2011, 01:54 AM

To my knowledge, the main owner/CEO of www.LawmanLeatherGoods.com is a member of the forum.
I'd find him, send a PM & say; what's the dil-e-o? Or what's the Dilly-bar?

60 weeks does seem a shad long for a leather holster....

Sixer · April 21, 2011, 04:44 PM

I'm sure they are busy over at Lawman Leather, but 60 WEEKS

Didn't Noah build the Ark in about 60 weeks!?

Seriously though, it's time you got a refund, a free holster, or a VERY good explanation.

Blue Duck · April 21, 2011, 05:55 PM

I found my receipt sent to me from URSULA at Lawman Leather Goods, and I purchased it on Feb 25, 2010

They actually promised me a 28 week delivery, which they showed to be Sept 7, 2010 but I have had several verbal promises since then.

Does anyone know what handle the owner goes by, on here if he is a member?

Don H · April 21, 2011, 06:11 PM

http://thefiringline.com/forums/member.php?u=73983

Blue Duck · April 21, 2011, 07:18 PM

Thanks, Don

Blue Duck · April 21, 2011, 07:43 PM

http://smith-wessonforum.com/conceal...her-goods.html

I guess I am not the only sucker that bought into this scam

ohen cepel · April 21, 2011, 07:48 PM

Sorry to hear about that pain!

I have a nice old Lawman Holster that I would like to part with if you want one quick. PM me if interested.

Kreyzhorse · April 21, 2011, 09:42 PM

Quote:

3 - Your credit card company should refund you your $$$, as you NEVER received the item. File a dispute.

That would be my first step. I'd also contact the BBB on this one. Good luck getting your cash back or at least trying to make their life a little tougher.

NWdude83 · April 22, 2011, 12:56 AM

I always take the childish route when something is taking not just long, but too long. I threaten to bash them on every forum I can possibly find. But whatever works for you.

precision_shooter · April 22, 2011, 11:50 AM

Lawman Leather hasn't had any activity on this site since Dec., 2008. Don't think it will do much good to send them a PM or anything through this site...

226x6 · October 2, 2011, 08:17 AM

Jimmy Ardolino who now runs lawman leather in conjunction with Jerry can be reached on the following number. Beware though he is his fathers son!
7025889583 and full of uneventful promises like his father.

Daggitt · December 23, 2011, 07:16 PM

Contact Guns and Ammo too. Most magazines police their advertisers. Be sure to point out you saw the merchant's ad in Guns and Ammo. Hit him where it hurts.

FTG-05 · December 23, 2011, 11:22 PM

I've been following the Smith-Wesson forum thread for quite some time.

What massive POSs for fleecing so many gun owners for so long.

Don't order from them.

April 20, 2011, 11:17 PM	#1
Blue Duck Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 2006 Posts: 216	Warning: Lawman Leather I guess this is a Warning/Rant/etc. Do not order a Lawman Leather Dirty Harry shoulder Holster from Lawman Leather, unless you are willing to wait till maybe forever to get it. I ordered one last Feb 2010, and of course they wanted my money up front, with a 20 week wait time. Well, it's now been 60 weeks and still no holster, and they refuse to refund my money. They are full of excusses for the delays, and have promised me just 5 more weeks on several occasions, then I call them back, and it's the same thing again. They are pretty smart about getting your money up front, then promising 20 weeks, as 3 months is a long as you can go back on your credit card to get your money back. They won't even look up you account to actually tell you where you are in the line up. They give you every excuse in the book. And I am not the only one, just do a search on them, I know I wish I had before I handed over my money. Anyway, I have held off on blasting them on the internet, but I have had it, and I also don't what anyone else having to deal with this issue. This company advertizes in Guns and Ammo, and has an impressive website, but their business practices are terrible, and I wonder if I will ever see my holster, and they will not refund your money, either.

April 20, 2011, 11:40 PM	#2
wildphilhickup Member Join Date: January 2, 2011 Posts: 37	You can do something 1 - Contact the USPS and file a compliant. 2 - Contact the AG for their state of residence and file a complaint. 3 - Your credit card company should refund you your $$$, as you NEVER received the item. File a dispute. 4 - For a company to delay shipment beyond 30 days, they must obtain your okay in writing. Otherwise, they are bound by law to refund your $$$. 5 - Contact the BBB in their state and complain. 6 - Contact G&A and complain. Good Luck!

April 20, 2011, 11:52 PM	#4
wildphilhickup Member Join Date: January 2, 2011 Posts: 37	Good 4 U Good. I have had to do the same. I sent Coyote Cap a $50.00 deposit for an 1887 Lever Action Shotgun. They stated the price would be ~$400. 3 years later they wine and wine and raise the price to ~$650 for the gun. They refuse to refund my $$$. It has been ~6 years now and still no gun or $$$ for me. We have a written contract. I gave them $50, and they promised the gun for ~$400. The Minnesota AG and the USPS is after them. LOL!

April 21, 2011, 01:09 AM	#5
Dave Cole Member Join Date: August 16, 2009 Location: Satellite Beach,Fl. Posts: 55	Well I guess the moral of this story is not to pay up front.I have seen more customers get ripped off by paying up front, especially when the product has a long lead time.I can see a small deposit to secure the order but a large deposit or total up front is wrong.The only time a larger deposit may be needed is when a high end material needs to be ordered or it is a very custom model which would be hard to sell to another person.Dave __________________ http://dcknivesandleather.blademakers.com/

April 21, 2011, 01:54 AM	#6
ClydeFrog Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 3,870	Make his day!... To my knowledge, the main owner/CEO of www.LawmanLeatherGoods.com is a member of the forum. I'd find him, send a PM & say; what's the dil-e-o? Or what's the Dilly-bar? 60 weeks does seem a shad long for a leather holster....

April 20, 2011, 11:45 PM	#3
Blue Duck Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 2006 Posts: 216	Good advice, I am going to do some of that.

April 21, 2011, 04:44 PM	#7
Sixer Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,867	I'm sure they are busy over at Lawman Leather, but 60 WEEKS Didn't Noah build the Ark in about 60 weeks!? Seriously though, it's time you got a refund, a free holster, or a VERY good explanation. __________________ Hopp Custom Leather <------ click for HOLSTER awesomeness!! -There is no theory of evolution... Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

April 21, 2011, 05:55 PM	#8
Blue Duck Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 2006 Posts: 216	I found my receipt sent to me from URSULA at Lawman Leather Goods, and I purchased it on Feb 25, 2010 They actually promised me a 28 week delivery, which they showed to be Sept 7, 2010 but I have had several verbal promises since then. Does anyone know what handle the owner goes by, on here if he is a member?

April 21, 2011, 06:11 PM	#9
Don H Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 2000 Location: SLC,Utah Posts: 2,706	http://thefiringline.com/forums/member.php?u=73983 __________________ Don http://www.utahconcealedcarry.com/forum/

April 21, 2011, 07:18 PM	#10
Blue Duck Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 2006 Posts: 216	Thanks, Don

April 21, 2011, 07:43 PM	#11
Blue Duck Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 2006 Posts: 216	http://smith-wessonforum.com/conceal...her-goods.html I guess I am not the only sucker that bought into this scam

April 21, 2011, 07:48 PM	#12
ohen cepel Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 1999 Location: Where they send me Posts: 1,011	Sorry to hear about that pain! I have a nice old Lawman Holster that I would like to part with if you want one quick. PM me if interested. __________________ He who dares wins. NRA Life Benefactor Member

April 22, 2011, 12:56 AM	#14
NWdude83 Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2008 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 351	I always take the childish route when something is taking not just long, but too long. I threaten to bash them on every forum I can possibly find. But whatever works for you.

April 22, 2011, 11:50 AM	#15
precision_shooter Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,272	Lawman Leather hasn't had any activity on this site since Dec., 2008. Don't think it will do much good to send them a PM or anything through this site... __________________ "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson, 1776

October 2, 2011, 08:17 AM	#16
226x6 Junior Member Join Date: October 2, 2011 Posts: 1	Jimmy Ardolino who now runs lawman leather in conjunction with Jerry can be reached on the following number. Beware though he is his fathers son! 7025889583 and full of uneventful promises like his father.

December 23, 2011, 07:16 PM	#17
Daggitt Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2011 Posts: 265	Contact Guns and Ammo too. Most magazines police their advertisers. Be sure to point out you saw the merchant's ad in Guns and Ammo. Hit him where it hurts.

December 23, 2011, 11:22 PM	#18
FTG-05 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 1999 Location: North Alabama Posts: 259	I've been following the Smith-Wesson forum thread for quite some time. What massive POSs for fleecing so many gun owners for so long. Don't order from them.