Nosler Varmeggedon

mrawesome22 · October 26, 2011, 12:28 AM

Anyone shot any of these yet?

http://www.nosler.com/Bullets/Varmageddon.aspx

FrankenMauser · October 26, 2011, 02:13 AM

I haven't even seen them in stock anywhere, yet.

Though, I have a suspicion that they may be versions of the Midway Dogtown, finally labeled under the manufacturer's own name. (I have no data to back up that "hunch"; just experience with Nosler products, the Dogtown bullets, the packaging methods for both, and Nosler's habit of partnering with other vendors and manufacturers for bullet designs.)

If they are... Nosler's velocity claims probably won't hold up. (They claim there is no reasonable velocity limit for these bullets.) The Dogtowns had the same claim, when they first hit the market. Within a year, they had a 4,000 fps max velocity listed. (With a recommendation for 3,800 fps or less.) As a .220 Swift shooter, with a supply of 34 gr Dogtowns on hand... I was less than impressed with bullets vaporizing. (I was an "earlier adopter".

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If they hit the market at a reasonable price, I might give the 6mm 55 gr Spitzer a try in my 6mm wildcat. How fast can they go?

mrawesome22 · October 26, 2011, 02:48 AM

I had the same suspicion, but they do not look like the dogtowns on the outside anyway.

**Brian Pfleuger** · October 26, 2011, 08:39 AM

The ads are creative but I'm not sure what is left to squeeze out of varmint bullet performance.

Many existing bullets easily exhibit 1/2 MOA accuracy and there are choices for "limiting pelt damage" all the way to "explosive expansion". What will these bullets do that the rest of Nosler's line, or somebody else's, doesn't?

After shooting the Nosler 35gr BT in 22-250 at 4,435 fps I have little need for anything else and the .204 bullets seem like... .204 bullets.

cornbush · October 26, 2011, 08:29 PM

I think I'll stick with the Barnes Varmint Grenade in my .223, they got the right name for them..........it's like delivering a miniature grenade

, even on ground squirrels.

dunerjeff · October 26, 2011, 10:00 PM

Sierra's varminteers and Hornady's A-max's tend to turn Praire Dogs into chunks also.

mrawesome22 · October 27, 2011, 10:46 PM

I wonder if these have a longer bearing surface than the BT?

I never could get BT's to shoot anywhere close to the accuracy of a V-Max and I always was suspicious that the short bearing surface is to blame.

FrankenMauser · October 28, 2011, 12:43 AM

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I never could get BT's to shoot anywhere close to the accuracy of a V-Max and I always was suspicious that the short bearing surface is to blame.

There's only one way to find out...

mrawesome22 · October 28, 2011, 12:57 AM

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There's only one way to find out...

Yep. Wait for the 50 grainers to come out and test them.

My 250 gives me dirty looks if I don't take her past 3,800 fps

October 26, 2011, 12:28 AM	#1
mrawesome22 Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2005 Location: Ohio, Appalachia's foothills. Posts: 3,779	Nosler Varmeggedon Anyone shot any of these yet? http://www.nosler.com/Bullets/Varmageddon.aspx Last edited by mrawesome22; October 26, 2011 at 12:41 AM.

October 26, 2011, 02:13 AM	#2
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2008 Location: 1B ID Posts: 5,391	I haven't even seen them in stock anywhere, yet. Though, I have a suspicion that they may be versions of the Midway Dogtown, finally labeled under the manufacturer's own name. (I have no data to back up that "hunch"; just experience with Nosler products, the Dogtown bullets, the packaging methods for both, and Nosler's habit of partnering with other vendors and manufacturers for bullet designs.) If they are... Nosler's velocity claims probably won't hold up. (They claim there is no reasonable velocity limit for these bullets.) The Dogtowns had the same claim, when they first hit the market. Within a year, they had a 4,000 fps max velocity listed. (With a recommendation for 3,800 fps or less.) As a .220 Swift shooter, with a supply of 34 gr Dogtowns on hand... I was less than impressed with bullets vaporizing. (I was an "earlier adopter". ) If they hit the market at a reasonable price, I might give the 6mm 55 gr Spitzer a try in my 6mm wildcat. How fast can they go? __________________ "Such is the strange way that man works -- first he virtually destroys a species and then does everything in his power to restore it."

October 26, 2011, 08:39 AM	#4
Brian Pfleuger Staff Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Central, Southern NY, USA Posts: 14,454	The ads are creative but I'm not sure what is left to squeeze out of varmint bullet performance. Many existing bullets easily exhibit 1/2 MOA accuracy and there are choices for "limiting pelt damage" all the way to "explosive expansion". What will these bullets do that the rest of Nosler's line, or somebody else's, doesn't? After shooting the Nosler 35gr BT in 22-250 at 4,435 fps I have little need for anything else and the .204 bullets seem like... .204 bullets. __________________ Still happily answering to the call-sign Peetza. --- You do not HAVE a soul. You ARE a soul. You HAVE a body. -C.S. Lewis He is no fool who gives what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose. -Jim Eliott, paraphrasing Philip Henry.

October 26, 2011, 08:29 PM	#5
cornbush Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: The retarded place below Idaho Posts: 1,356	I think I'll stick with the Barnes Varmint Grenade in my .223, they got the right name for them..........it's like delivering a miniature grenade, even on ground squirrels. __________________ The best shot I ever made was an accident

October 27, 2011, 10:46 PM	#7
mrawesome22 Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2005 Location: Ohio, Appalachia's foothills. Posts: 3,779	I wonder if these have a longer bearing surface than the BT? I never could get BT's to shoot anywhere close to the accuracy of a V-Max and I always was suspicious that the short bearing surface is to blame. Last edited by mrawesome22; October 27, 2011 at 11:04 PM.

October 26, 2011, 02:48 AM	#3
mrawesome22 Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2005 Location: Ohio, Appalachia's foothills. Posts: 3,779	I had the same suspicion, but they do not look like the dogtowns on the outside anyway.

October 26, 2011, 10:00 PM	#6
dunerjeff Senior Member Join Date: March 31, 2011 Location: central Wisconsin Posts: 440	Sierra's varminteers and Hornady's A-max's tend to turn Praire Dogs into chunks also.