Reloading 45 ACP 230 gr.RN - Page 2

8ring · October 16, 2011, 12:32 AM

Like others said, 3.8 to 4.0 Hodgdon Clays under a 230gr lead RN bullet is a good load for both .45 acp semi-autos and revolvers.

3.8 to 4.0 Vithavouri N-310 is even better, shoots a little softer and cleaner than Clays.

4.3 to 4.5 gr Winchester Super target also gets good results.

Chris

Kyo · October 16, 2011, 10:39 AM

Mike, that just looks scary!
3.3 graings of bullseye. I use it with 185g and 200g. It will work fine with 230 as well, since its even more deeper seated to be the same OAL. I keep the OAL at somewhere between 1.230 and 1.240

WESHOOT2 · October 18, 2011, 05:51 AM

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I use hardcast lead 230-gr. bullets and 4.9 to 5.2 grains of WW 231.

I do this.

grubbylabs · October 18, 2011, 09:48 AM

I load a 230 grain RNFP that I cast my self over 6 grains of Unique with mixed cases and Winchester LPP. This load seems very good for my XD

riverwalker76 · October 18, 2011, 10:24 AM

For target and plinking I usually load either Titegroup, SR4756, or Accurate #5 behind a Winchester 230 gr. RN. As for load data ... always go with the lowest load that will cycle your action. With Titegroup it's easy to get out of hand very quickly, so I always load the lowest charge listed, and I know, from experience, that this will cycle all of my 45s.

overkill0084 · October 18, 2011, 10:53 AM

4.6 gr of Bullseye or 6.0 gr of Unique, with either cast or plated 230 RN. Both shoot really well in all my .45s.

cw308 · October 18, 2011, 05:36 PM

I"m going to try Bullseye 4.8 GR. 230 Gr FMJ hardball OAL 1.265 and see how it shoots,but bullseye if I remember right did not burn so clean. The Colt is alot of fun to shoot except for the slide being so hard to pull back. If anyone out there has a Colt MK IV Seriers 70 Govt. having the same problem let me know.It may be normal for this model ,but I can tell you this,it"s a hand full. I put it in half cocked safety to pull the slide back. I fired 45 before and it is nothing like this. The 45 works great other than that.

Sevens · October 19, 2011, 12:02 AM

Do you suppose perhaps your recoil spring is binding? If it's that awfully hard to draw back the slide, I'm curious how/why your ammo cycles the pistol properly. Does it run well with factory ammo?

Doesn't sound right -- figure it out!

**Mike Irwin** · October 19, 2011, 06:48 AM

It was scary, KYO. I also ended up with a small sliver of lead embedded in the skin on my forehead.

What is TRULY scary, though, is that I had been intending to shoot that ammo through my Smith & Wesson Model of 1917, but I forgot the clips and I didn't feel like punching the cases out by hand.

My Springfield 1911 handled the double charge just fine, but my 1917 doubtless would have been absolutely destroyed.

Don P · October 19, 2011, 04:31 PM

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For me Titegroup and cast bullets do not fix!!

How come? Whats wrong with Titegroup and cast lead? Just curious.

floydster · October 19, 2011, 05:12 PM

Don, I just have experienced a lot of smoke and leading with titegroup, I think it is just a too fast burning powder for cast.
I have good luck with Unique, Trail Boss and 231, however using Bullseye, which is a fast burning powder also, I get good results,go figure, can't explain that

spacecoast · October 20, 2011, 07:02 AM

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Don, I just have experienced a lot of smoke and leading with titegroup

You might not have a good barrel/bullet fit. Titegroup works great in both my .45 semis and revolvers with cast bullets, either 185 or 230 grain.

Don P · October 20, 2011, 02:18 PM

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I have good luck with Unique

I found this powder to be real Smokey, extremely dirty, and it does not meter well at all. I had started reloading with Unique on a friends recommendation and could not wait to finish it up. When cleanup time came it was like black grease on the cylinder face and breech and the dies were a mess inside especially the powder through die. Never again and this is just my opinion and experience with Unique.

Red Dog · October 20, 2011, 11:06 PM

Mike,

Is there a story here that you want to share?
It seems that you were shooting for 4.9 of 231.

Edward429451 · October 21, 2011, 09:41 PM

For me it's 5.5 gr of 231 and my own LRN.

hoistfixer · October 26, 2011, 12:42 PM

I favor using:

IMR Hi-Skor 800X 6.6gr CCI 300 Large Pistol primer 1.270" COL Laser-Cast lead RN 230gr

IMR Hi-Skor 800X 7.0gr CCI 300 Large Pistol primer 1.260" COL Remington FMJ 230gr

abber · October 27, 2011, 04:52 PM

I like to drop a Hornady #45177 (230 gr. TMJ) onto 6.6 grains of Power Pistol. These are crazy accurate.

Crazy Carl · October 27, 2011, 09:22 PM

4.6gr of 231 under a Hornady 230gr LRN runs like a champ thru my DW 1911s. Soft recoiling & very accurate.

October 16, 2011, 10:39 AM	#27
Kyo Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Posts: 897	Mike, that just looks scary! 3.3 graings of bullseye. I use it with 185g and 200g. It will work fine with 230 as well, since its even more deeper seated to be the same OAL. I keep the OAL at somewhere between 1.230 and 1.240 __________________ 1. The gun is *always* loaded. 2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. 3. Keep your finger off the trigger unless you are ready to shoot. 4. Be be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

October 18, 2011, 09:48 AM	#29
grubbylabs Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2009 Location: Hansen Idaho Posts: 1,366	I load a 230 grain RNFP that I cast my self over 6 grains of Unique with mixed cases and Winchester LPP. This load seems very good for my XD __________________ * (Swinging club) Whack! whack! whack! * Nope, the old nag's still dead . (Capt Charlie)

October 18, 2011, 10:24 AM	#30
riverwalker76 Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 993	For target and plinking I usually load either Titegroup, SR4756, or Accurate #5 behind a Winchester 230 gr. RN. As for load data ... always go with the lowest load that will cycle your action. With Titegroup it's easy to get out of hand very quickly, so I always load the lowest charge listed, and I know, from experience, that this will cycle all of my 45s. __________________ *Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto* - “You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass.”

October 18, 2011, 10:53 AM	#31
overkill0084 Senior Member Join Date: August 7, 2010 Location: Northern, UT Posts: 1,115	4.6 gr of Bullseye or 6.0 gr of Unique, with either cast or plated 230 RN. Both shoot really well in all my .45s. __________________ Cheers, Greg "We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem." Douglas Adams

October 18, 2011, 05:36 PM	#32
cw308 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 252	Thanks for the info I"m going to try Bullseye 4.8 GR. 230 Gr FMJ hardball OAL 1.265 and see how it shoots,but bullseye if I remember right did not burn so clean. The Colt is alot of fun to shoot except for the slide being so hard to pull back. If anyone out there has a Colt MK IV Seriers 70 Govt. having the same problem let me know.It may be normal for this model ,but I can tell you this,it"s a hand full. I put it in half cocked safety to pull the slide back. I fired 45 before and it is nothing like this. The 45 works great other than that.

October 16, 2011, 12:32 AM	#26
8ring Member Join Date: October 26, 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 77	Like others said, 3.8 to 4.0 Hodgdon Clays under a 230gr lead RN bullet is a good load for both .45 acp semi-autos and revolvers. 3.8 to 4.0 Vithavouri N-310 is even better, shoots a little softer and cleaner than Clays. 4.3 to 4.5 gr Winchester Super target also gets good results. Chris

October 19, 2011, 12:02 AM	#33
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 6,936	Do you suppose perhaps your recoil spring is binding? If it's that awfully hard to draw back the slide, I'm curious how/why your ammo cycles the pistol properly. Does it run well with factory ammo? Doesn't sound right -- figure it out! __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

October 19, 2011, 06:48 AM	#34
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 33,293	It was scary, KYO. I also ended up with a small sliver of lead embedded in the skin on my forehead. What is TRULY scary, though, is that I had been intending to shoot that ammo through my Smith & Wesson Model of 1917, but I forgot the clips and I didn't feel like punching the cases out by hand. My Springfield 1911 handled the double charge just fine, but my 1917 doubtless would have been absolutely destroyed. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

October 19, 2011, 05:12 PM	#36
floydster Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 2008 Posts: 426	Don, I just have experienced a lot of smoke and leading with titegroup, I think it is just a too fast burning powder for cast. I have good luck with Unique, Trail Boss and 231, however using Bullseye, which is a fast burning powder also, I get good results,go figure, can't explain that

October 20, 2011, 11:06 PM	#39
Red Dog Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2010 Posts: 202	Mike, Is there a story here that you want to share? It seems that you were shooting for 4.9 of 231.

October 21, 2011, 09:41 PM	#40
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,496	For me it's 5.5 gr of 231 and my own LRN.

October 26, 2011, 12:42 PM	#41
hoistfixer Member Join Date: December 31, 2008 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 27	.45 ACP Loads I favor using: IMR Hi-Skor 800X 6.6gr CCI 300 Large Pistol primer 1.270" COL Laser-Cast lead RN 230gr IMR Hi-Skor 800X 7.0gr CCI 300 Large Pistol primer 1.260" COL Remington FMJ 230gr

October 27, 2011, 04:52 PM	#42
abber Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2008 Location: PRK Posts: 728	I like to drop a Hornady #45177 (230 gr. TMJ) onto 6.6 grains of Power Pistol. These are crazy accurate. __________________ I ain't got no safe queens. I shoots em all...

October 27, 2011, 09:22 PM	#43
Crazy Carl Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2009 Location: Alamance Co., NC Posts: 198	4.6gr of 231 under a Hornady 230gr LRN runs like a champ thru my DW 1911s. Soft recoiling & very accurate.