H&R 12 gauge any good?

7jinxed7 · September 29, 2011, 09:03 PM

So apparently these can be had all day around $200.00. That seems like a great deal. But the question is are they any good? I have never seen or heard anything about them till recently. If they are reliable then their worth the $200.00.

I also noticed they look a hell of lot like a remington like the furniture and slide release. Are these made by remington or are they just tryin to clone them?

Dave McC · September 29, 2011, 09:22 PM

It's a clone, made in China. For the same money, find an old, pre enjoyed Wingmaster.

jaguarxk120 · September 30, 2011, 08:09 AM

+1 as to what Dave said.

BigJimP · September 30, 2011, 01:29 PM

made in China ...

clone ....

they're cheap ....are they any good ...

7jinxed7 · October 1, 2011, 08:19 PM

Oh ,I didn't know they were made in China. But, that doesn't necessarily mean they suck. Norinco's are made in China and their not all that bad. So whats wrong with them?

I guess I could find something used for that. I just thought $200.00 for any gun that works is good.

columbia_shotguneer · October 1, 2011, 08:27 PM

I have not got the oportunity to see a pardner pump in person but my curiousity tells me if they are making the pumps in China then what about their singles? Maybe the actual H&R 1871 is just getting the parts there for the(singles) and assembling them here in the States.

jmortimer · October 1, 2011, 11:52 PM

The Pardner Potector is an excellent shotgun. Here is link to 10 reviews from LEO owners from Police Link and as you can see the Pardner is a fantastic deal and very well made. Only issue is if you want to buy an imported gun not if the gun is well made as it surely is very well made. http://policelink.monster.com/produc...pump-protector

OkieCruffler · October 2, 2011, 09:57 AM

The one I looked at was loose fitting and rattly (is that a word?). $200 will buy you alot of pump gun on the used market.

SteelChickenShooter · October 2, 2011, 12:01 PM

My results were mixed. I've had both good and bad with H&R.
One H&R 12ga worked fine. Another broke after about 3 shots.

Cornhusker77 · October 2, 2011, 12:53 PM

My Pardner Pump Protector has been a good shotty.
870 furniture will fit fine.
One thing is it's heavy and doesn't feel quite as smooth as an 870, but it feels bulletproof.
I've got maybe 500 rounds through mine, everything from 8 shot to 00 buck, no problems.

TxGun · October 2, 2011, 03:17 PM

"my curiousity tells me if they are making the pumps in China then what about their singles?"

No, the pump guns are imported but H&R singles are manufactured and assembled in Ilion, N.Y., the original home of Remington Arms.

OkieCruffler · October 2, 2011, 04:23 PM

It's all but impossible to kill one of those singles. I think one of the biggest problems with anything made in china is that the QC is non-existant. One person can have one that is flawless, the next can get a dog. It's all in how lucky you are. Also, do any of the 9 gazillion addons made for the 870 work on the imports?

columbia_shotguneer · October 2, 2011, 08:11 PM

Quote:

No, the pump guns are imported but H&R singles are manufactured and assembled in Ilion, N.Y., the original home of Remington Arms.

TX, thanks for the info on this.

BrittB · October 3, 2011, 01:05 AM

My H&R 20 gauge single shot has been flawless. I really like it!

ZMill88 · October 17, 2011, 01:02 PM

Just bought an H and R Pardner Protector 12G the other day and took it to the range yesterday shoots great put 50 shells threw it no problem whatsoever. It is a great gun for the price dont let the whole made in china thing change your mind. Do some research before you buy there are alot of people that swear by them and some people would rather spend more money for the Mossberg or an 870. I love my 200 dollar 12Gauge good first shotgun

**hogdogs** · October 17, 2011, 02:05 PM

Here is the BIGGEST problem with chi-com junk imports... What will you do when H&R drops the contract? And the parts are not truly interchangeable with their genuine counterpart?

What will you do when china gets a sandspur in their butt cuz we decided to impose tariffs on them until they change their policy regarding intentionally keeping their currency devalued... And they refuse to ship to the usa or some such other event?

Brent

PT-92 · October 19, 2011, 10:03 PM

This was also addressed in another thread. Truth be told, the Chi-coms make decent/affordable stuff much like the Turks as well.

-Cheers

September 29, 2011, 09:03 PM	#1
7jinxed7 Senior Member Join Date: June 3, 2009 Location: no where Posts: 350	H&R 12 gauge any good? So apparently these can be had all day around $200.00. That seems like a great deal. But the question is are they any good? I have never seen or heard anything about them till recently. If they are reliable then their worth the $200.00. I also noticed they look a hell of lot like a remington like the furniture and slide release. Are these made by remington or are they just tryin to clone them?

October 1, 2011, 08:27 PM	#6
columbia_shotguneer Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2011 Location: ne florida Posts: 147	I have not got the oportunity to see a pardner pump in person but my curiousity tells me if they are making the pumps in China then what about their singles? Maybe the actual H&R 1871 is just getting the parts there for the(singles) and assembling them here in the States. __________________ living in FL but my home's in alabama! From Squirrel to Elephant, the Shotgun is your gun. sincerely, Blain

October 2, 2011, 09:57 AM	#8
OkieCruffler Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2001 Location: Denison Texas on the banks of Texhoma Posts: 1,368	The one I looked at was loose fitting and rattly (is that a word?). $200 will buy you alot of pump gun on the used market. __________________ John A. Monroe, Never Forgive, Never Forget, Blood Pays Blood

October 2, 2011, 03:17 PM	#11
TxGun Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Texas Hill Country ranch Posts: 433	"my curiousity tells me if they are making the pumps in China then what about their singles?" No, the pump guns are imported but H&R singles are manufactured and assembled in Ilion, N.Y., the original home of Remington Arms. Last edited by TxGun; October 2, 2011 at 03:24 PM.

October 2, 2011, 04:23 PM	#12
OkieCruffler Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2001 Location: Denison Texas on the banks of Texhoma Posts: 1,368	It's all but impossible to kill one of those singles. I think one of the biggest problems with anything made in china is that the QC is non-existant. One person can have one that is flawless, the next can get a dog. It's all in how lucky you are. Also, do any of the 9 gazillion addons made for the 870 work on the imports? __________________ John A. Monroe, Never Forgive, Never Forget, Blood Pays Blood

September 29, 2011, 09:22 PM	#2
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 14, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,831	It's a clone, made in China. For the same money, find an old, pre enjoyed Wingmaster.

September 30, 2011, 08:09 AM	#3
jaguarxk120 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,680	+1 as to what Dave said.

September 30, 2011, 01:29 PM	#4
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 9,953	made in China ... clone .... they're cheap ....are they any good ...

October 1, 2011, 08:19 PM	#5
7jinxed7 Senior Member Join Date: June 3, 2009 Location: no where Posts: 350	Oh ,I didn't know they were made in China. But, that doesn't necessarily mean they suck. Norinco's are made in China and their not all that bad. So whats wrong with them? I guess I could find something used for that. I just thought $200.00 for any gun that works is good.

October 1, 2011, 11:52 PM	#7
jmortimer Junior member Join Date: January 24, 2010 Location: South West Riverside County California Posts: 2,765	The Pardner Potector is an excellent shotgun. Here is link to 10 reviews from LEO owners from Police Link and as you can see the Pardner is a fantastic deal and very well made. Only issue is if you want to buy an imported gun not if the gun is well made as it surely is very well made. http://policelink.monster.com/produc...pump-protector

October 2, 2011, 12:01 PM	#9
SteelChickenShooter Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2011 Posts: 587	My results were mixed. I've had both good and bad with H&R. One H&R 12ga worked fine. Another broke after about 3 shots.

October 2, 2011, 12:53 PM	#10
Cornhusker77 Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2009 Posts: 178	My Pardner Pump Protector has been a good shotty. 870 furniture will fit fine. One thing is it's heavy and doesn't feel quite as smooth as an 870, but it feels bulletproof. I've got maybe 500 rounds through mine, everything from 8 shot to 00 buck, no problems.

October 3, 2011, 01:05 AM	#14
BrittB Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2011 Location: Oregon Posts: 551	My H&R 20 gauge single shot has been flawless. I really like it!

October 17, 2011, 01:02 PM	#15
ZMill88 Junior Member Join Date: October 17, 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 1	Just bought an H and R Pardner Protector 12G the other day and took it to the range yesterday shoots great put 50 shells threw it no problem whatsoever. It is a great gun for the price dont let the whole made in china thing change your mind. Do some research before you buy there are alot of people that swear by them and some people would rather spend more money for the Mossberg or an 870. I love my 200 dollar 12Gauge good first shotgun

October 17, 2011, 02:05 PM	#16
hogdogs Staff Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 10,687	Here is the BIGGEST problem with chi-com junk imports... What will you do when H&R drops the contract? And the parts are not truly interchangeable with their genuine counterpart? What will you do when china gets a sandspur in their butt cuz we decided to impose tariffs on them until they change their policy regarding intentionally keeping their currency devalued... And they refuse to ship to the usa or some such other event? Brent __________________ Finally have designs going up in the Hogdogs Outdoor Apparel online store. http://www.cafepress.com/hogdogsoutdoorapparel Thanks for lookin'...

October 19, 2011, 10:03 PM	#17
PT-92 Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2007 Location: "Undisclosed Bunker" Posts: 1,296	This was also addressed in another thread. Truth be told, the Chi-coms make decent/affordable stuff much like the Turks as well. -Cheers __________________ NRA Life Member “A free people ought...to be armed..." ―George Washington