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Old August 30, 2011, 04:11 PM   #26
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I don't know why this is always an issue? This has been going on for a century or longer, and dangerous game loads are a known quantity, so why argue? It is not magic or rocket science.

.45 Caliber, quality bullets, no matter what name you call it, 45/70, 450 Marlin, .458 Win. Mag., 458 Lott, all work well within reasonable loadings!

This is proven in the field, not at the kitchen table with a glass of scotch, but it could be debated there!!!
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Old August 30, 2011, 04:26 PM   #27
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In PA they kill bears trying to get a good Italian meal ! Doesn't even look like the claimed 350 lb. Note the paranoia about a hungry bear !!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nsylvania.html
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Old August 30, 2011, 04:53 PM   #28
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Those hillbillies in Uniontown were out of hand on that one! Poor Yogi was just out for a picnic basket!
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Old August 30, 2011, 05:10 PM   #29
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There is hunting, where the hunter generally knows more about the situation than the bear (hopefully) and has the advantage.

Then there is stopping, where the bear is more up close and personal--and irate and coming at high speed.
Art is spot on here. I think people don't make the connection that there is a difference between hunting and self deference.

People(including my self) hunt bears with archery gear. Would I want to defend my self with the bow? But I would hunt with it.

I think most any quality well constructed medium caliber and up bullet would do fine in a hunting situation.

However, in a self defense situation the fattest, heaviest hunk of lead that you can push the fastest is what I would want.
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Old August 30, 2011, 06:35 PM   #30
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hey Alska444 you will need a good recoil pad for such a big load as that.
No thanks, I have already passed on the 45-70. No need for it in my eyes. I am happy with my Marlin .444. If I can't drop it with a well placed shot with that, then so be it.
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Old September 1, 2011, 12:40 PM   #31
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I am happy with my Marlin .444. If I can't drop it with a well placed shot with that, then so be it.
There is a man you don't mess with! He uses a gun he loves, and knows what he is doing with it!
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Old September 3, 2011, 02:39 PM   #32
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45/70 for black bears

I can't speak to the effectiveness of a 45/70 on grizzlies but I can tell you from experience that a black bear is a relatively easy kill. I have taken two bears with a 50# recurve bow at 18 yards. If you're planning a spot and stalk hunt and expect to shoot one at some distance, I would think a 30.06 is plenty for the job. I have a friend two dropped a 275# boar at just under 100yds with a 30.30. I'm not necessarily recommending that.
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Old September 4, 2011, 10:47 AM   #33
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.45 Caliber, quality bullets, no matter what name you call it, 45/70, 450 Marlin, .458 Win. Mag., 458 Lott, all work well within reasonable loadings!
I would hope so. Never understand these threads debating the 45/70's effectiveness either. Lord help us if any bears in North America have started just shrugging off 45/70 rounds. Wouldn't want to live near them.
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Old September 4, 2011, 02:17 PM   #34
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gee--if the 45-70 was used to decimate the buffalo years ago--do ya think it could be used to off a bear????
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