Re-loading

Drummer101 · July 9, 2011, 01:50 PM

Does anyone know what kind of press this is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1ygz...eature=related

zippy13 · July 9, 2011, 02:05 PM

IINM, it's a roll crimper, not a press.

BigJimP · July 9, 2011, 06:41 PM

If you want to learn about reloading equipment ---check out the MEC site. They have several models ...and you can get a lot of good general info there.

Drummer101 · July 9, 2011, 07:24 PM

I liked the roll one for when I start shooting more slugs. For target loads the store bought ones are more than enough for now.

I did find these,
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Ori...ctinfo/ROLL12/

I already have a drill press so I think it is an interesting option.

Edward429451 · July 11, 2011, 11:10 PM

I use the roll crimper on my drill press for crimping my 12ga slugs and it works fantastic. You do have to condition the hulls or you will get cracking. I made a better hull conditioner than you can buy from a broken mould handle. Cut off the tapered part and drill through it lengthwise and put a long skinny bolt through it that you can chuck up in the drill press.

Drummer101 · July 12, 2011, 06:27 PM

I was thinking this would be easier

I am having a hard time finding slugs for re-loading, casting my own is not an option.

Most of the ones I am finding are for rifled barrels or are over $1 each and I might aswell buy them at the store...

Anything else around??

zippy13 · July 12, 2011, 10:02 PM

It should also be mentioned that the original video you referenced was mislabeled. He's not re-loading shot shot shells, but loading them -- he's using new hulls. It's a different and less complicated procedure.

If you use previously fired hulls, you'll have to also deal with: an existing crimp, re-priming, and re-sizing the hull. Most of those who re-load hulls with slugs opt for star crimps.

You may wish to reconsider casting your own slugs. It can be done relatively inexpensively with LEE dies and tools.

Drummer101 · July 12, 2011, 10:04 PM

Dad is stern about no melting lead at home (lucky to even have guns there) and I dont have the facility at college...

Guess I did not think about the re-sizing.

These seem pretty cheap so I will probably get them in bulk when some free shipping deal rolls around or split shipping with someone.
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/prod...ducts_id=73473

darkgael · July 15, 2011, 07:12 AM

Just a note about slugs and crimping etc.
Instead of "slugs", try using lead round balls. They are readily available in a variety of diameters and way less expensive than any of the commercial slugs. Try some in .690" and .715". LRBs are best used with some kind of shot cup. I use BPIs Light Brush Wads and a BPGS gas seal.
Roll crimpers. I have two brands of drill press crimpers. I also have two "antique" roll crimp tools similar to the one in the OP. The antique tools are easier to use, faster, and make a better crimp.
12ga. .690" Round ball. Roll crimp:

Pete

zippy13 · July 15, 2011, 12:08 PM

Pete, my friend, it looks like you're using a new hull. What can you tell us about roll crimping a hull that was previously star crimped?

darkgael · July 15, 2011, 08:30 PM

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What can you tell us about roll crimping a hull that was previously star crimped

Zippy, my friend, the results are not quite as predictable. I usually cut the crimp off a hull that has developed cracks and load it at 2 1/2 inches.
For previously crimped hulls, the newer the hull, though, the better the roll will be. Some older hulls will give an OK crimp, some won't crimp at all.
Here is a pic of a Win AA hull that had a sharp 8 point crimp. A one ounce load, I took it through a MEC 600 to the crimp stage, dropped in an OS card and popped it into one of the old crimp tools.Two turns and this:

July 9, 2011, 01:50 PM	#1
Drummer101 Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 888	Re-loading Does anyone know what kind of press this is? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1ygz...eature=related __________________ ""I would say that we have to make up criteria." OK, which is better for 2 Bantu, 5 Hottentots, and 3 pygmies playing a war march on a calliope at 3 a.m. during a monsoon? Show your work and round to the nearest decimal."-Mike Irwin

July 9, 2011, 07:24 PM	#4
Drummer101 Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 888	I liked the roll one for when I start shooting more slugs. For target loads the store bought ones are more than enough for now. I did find these, http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Ori...ctinfo/ROLL12/ I already have a drill press so I think it is an interesting option. __________________ ""I would say that we have to make up criteria." OK, which is better for 2 Bantu, 5 Hottentots, and 3 pygmies playing a war march on a calliope at 3 a.m. during a monsoon? Show your work and round to the nearest decimal."-Mike Irwin

July 11, 2011, 11:10 PM	#5
Edward429451 Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,457	I use the roll crimper on my drill press for crimping my 12ga slugs and it works fantastic. You do have to condition the hulls or you will get cracking. I made a better hull conditioner than you can buy from a broken mould handle. Cut off the tapered part and drill through it lengthwise and put a long skinny bolt through it that you can chuck up in the drill press. __________________ "Always place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark" Lazarus Long "Understand that the enemy is not the enemy in his own eyes ;this may offer you an opportunity to make him your friend. If not, you can kill him without hate, and quickly." Lazarus Long

July 12, 2011, 06:27 PM	#6
Drummer101 Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 888	I was thinking this would be easier I am having a hard time finding slugs for re-loading, casting my own is not an option. Most of the ones I am finding are for rifled barrels or are over $1 each and I might aswell buy them at the store... Anything else around?? __________________ ""I would say that we have to make up criteria." OK, which is better for 2 Bantu, 5 Hottentots, and 3 pygmies playing a war march on a calliope at 3 a.m. during a monsoon? Show your work and round to the nearest decimal."-Mike Irwin

July 12, 2011, 10:04 PM	#8
Drummer101 Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 888	Dad is stern about no melting lead at home (lucky to even have guns there) and I dont have the facility at college... Guess I did not think about the re-sizing. These seem pretty cheap so I will probably get them in bulk when some free shipping deal rolls around or split shipping with someone. http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/prod...ducts_id=73473 __________________ ""I would say that we have to make up criteria." OK, which is better for 2 Bantu, 5 Hottentots, and 3 pygmies playing a war march on a calliope at 3 a.m. during a monsoon? Show your work and round to the nearest decimal."-Mike Irwin

July 9, 2011, 02:05 PM	#2
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,281	IINM, it's a roll crimper, not a press.

July 9, 2011, 06:41 PM	#3
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 9,962	If you want to learn about reloading equipment ---check out the MEC site. They have several models ...and you can get a lot of good general info there.

July 12, 2011, 10:02 PM	#7
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,281	It should also be mentioned that the original video you referenced was mislabeled. He's not re-loading shot shot shells, but loading them -- he's using new hulls. It's a different and less complicated procedure. If you use previously fired hulls, you'll have to also deal with: an existing crimp, re-priming, and re-sizing the hull. Most of those who re-load hulls with slugs opt for star crimps. You may wish to reconsider casting your own slugs. It can be done relatively inexpensively with LEE dies and tools.

July 15, 2011, 07:12 AM	#9
darkgael Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2006 Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. Posts: 3,985	Crimp Just a note about slugs and crimping etc. Instead of "slugs", try using lead round balls. They are readily available in a variety of diameters and way less expensive than any of the commercial slugs. Try some in .690" and .715". LRBs are best used with some kind of shot cup. I use BPIs Light Brush Wads and a BPGS gas seal. Roll crimpers. I have two brands of drill press crimpers. I also have two "antique" roll crimp tools similar to the one in the OP. The antique tools are easier to use, faster, and make a better crimp. 12ga. .690" Round ball. Roll crimp: Pete __________________ "Only hunting and mountain climbing are sports. The rest are just games." - R.Ruark NRA Life Member Last edited by darkgael; July 15, 2011 at 07:19 AM.

July 15, 2011, 12:08 PM	#10
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,281	Pete, my friend, it looks like you're using a new hull. What can you tell us about roll crimping a hull that was previously star crimped?