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Old July 9, 2011, 12:50 PM   #1
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Re-loading

Does anyone know what kind of press this is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1ygz...eature=related
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Old July 9, 2011, 01:05 PM   #2
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IINM, it's a roll crimper, not a press.
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Old July 9, 2011, 05:41 PM   #3
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If you want to learn about reloading equipment ---check out the MEC site. They have several models ...and you can get a lot of good general info there.
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Old July 9, 2011, 06:24 PM   #4
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I liked the roll one for when I start shooting more slugs. For target loads the store bought ones are more than enough for now.

I did find these,
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Ori...ctinfo/ROLL12/

I already have a drill press so I think it is an interesting option.
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Old July 11, 2011, 10:10 PM   #5
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I use the roll crimper on my drill press for crimping my 12ga slugs and it works fantastic. You do have to condition the hulls or you will get cracking. I made a better hull conditioner than you can buy from a broken mould handle. Cut off the tapered part and drill through it lengthwise and put a long skinny bolt through it that you can chuck up in the drill press.
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Old July 12, 2011, 05:27 PM   #6
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I was thinking this would be easier

I am having a hard time finding slugs for re-loading, casting my own is not an option.

Most of the ones I am finding are for rifled barrels or are over $1 each and I might aswell buy them at the store...

Anything else around??
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Old July 12, 2011, 09:02 PM   #7
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It should also be mentioned that the original video you referenced was mislabeled. He's not re-loading shot shot shells, but loading them -- he's using new hulls. It's a different and less complicated procedure.

If you use previously fired hulls, you'll have to also deal with: an existing crimp, re-priming, and re-sizing the hull. Most of those who re-load hulls with slugs opt for star crimps.

You may wish to reconsider casting your own slugs. It can be done relatively inexpensively with LEE dies and tools.
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Old July 12, 2011, 09:04 PM   #8
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Dad is stern about no melting lead at home (lucky to even have guns there) and I dont have the facility at college...

Guess I did not think about the re-sizing.

These seem pretty cheap so I will probably get them in bulk when some free shipping deal rolls around or split shipping with someone.
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/prod...ducts_id=73473
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Old July 15, 2011, 06:12 AM   #9
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Just a note about slugs and crimping etc.
Instead of "slugs", try using lead round balls. They are readily available in a variety of diameters and way less expensive than any of the commercial slugs. Try some in .690" and .715". LRBs are best used with some kind of shot cup. I use BPIs Light Brush Wads and a BPGS gas seal.
Roll crimpers. I have two brands of drill press crimpers. I also have two "antique" roll crimp tools similar to the one in the OP. The antique tools are easier to use, faster, and make a better crimp.
12ga. .690" Round ball. Roll crimp:


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Old July 15, 2011, 11:08 AM   #10
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Pete, my friend, it looks like you're using a new hull. What can you tell us about roll crimping a hull that was previously star crimped?
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Old July 15, 2011, 07:30 PM   #11
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What can you tell us about roll crimping a hull that was previously star crimped
Zippy, my friend, the results are not quite as predictable. I usually cut the crimp off a hull that has developed cracks and load it at 2 1/2 inches.
For previously crimped hulls, the newer the hull, though, the better the roll will be. Some older hulls will give an OK crimp, some won't crimp at all.
Here is a pic of a Win AA hull that had a sharp 8 point crimp. A one ounce load, I took it through a MEC 600 to the crimp stage, dropped in an OS card and popped it into one of the old crimp tools.Two turns and this:
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