I need help identifying this firearm

WildEagle · June 20, 2011, 07:18 PM

I have this rifle the barrel is aprox. 48 1/4 inches .It appears to be a 59 to 61 caleber The markings are london on the barrel and two crowns with crossed swords also the firing mechanisimis stamped w ketland and co. I beleive this was a flint lock converted into a precussion..The barrel is smoth bore type. I have more pictures if anyone emails me and ask.Thanks WildEagle

jhenry · June 20, 2011, 07:32 PM

It is a smoothbore fowling piece converted from flint to percussion. It is not a rifle, it is the equivalent of a shotgun. The contour of the lock plate makes me think late Revolutionary to War of 1812 era. The stock looks to be walnut, but could be cherry. Take a look over at American Longrifle dot com. Loads of good stuff there. If you post the photos you will get more info from a group more focused in that area. It is a very nice piece from what I can see. How did you come to have it?

kenno · June 20, 2011, 07:39 PM

I concur
It may be an OLD reproduction with original parts.IT looks like a British Musket barrel mated to a later Precussion Lock,,,80 years later with a pennsilvania stock???? It Might be a rifle bored out to smooth bore, or a comglomeration of parts. It looks very Pennselvania to me but there does seem to be some excelant gunsmithing to it's creation!
Hudson Bay Trade "rifle"?
1840?

**James K** · June 21, 2011, 12:49 AM

This might help some.

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/...c=11664.0;wap2

Jim

June 20, 2011, 07:32 PM	#2
jhenry Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2006 Location: Ozarks Posts: 1,769	It is a smoothbore fowling piece converted from flint to percussion. It is not a rifle, it is the equivalent of a shotgun. The contour of the lock plate makes me think late Revolutionary to War of 1812 era. The stock looks to be walnut, but could be cherry. Take a look over at American Longrifle dot com. Loads of good stuff there. If you post the photos you will get more info from a group more focused in that area. It is a very nice piece from what I can see. How did you come to have it? __________________ "A Liberal is someone who doesn't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory". - Charles Krauthammer

June 20, 2011, 07:39 PM	#3
kenno Junior member Join Date: November 3, 2008 Posts: 180	I concur It may be an OLD reproduction with original parts.IT looks like a British Musket barrel mated to a later Precussion Lock,,,80 years later with a pennsilvania stock???? It Might be a rifle bored out to smooth bore, or a comglomeration of parts. It looks very Pennselvania to me but there does seem to be some excelant gunsmithing to it's creation! Hudson Bay Trade "rifle"? 1840? Last edited by kenno; June 20, 2011 at 07:45 PM.

June 21, 2011, 12:49 AM	#4
James K Staff Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 16,437	This might help some. http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/...c=11664.0;wap2 Jim __________________ Jim K