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Old April 21, 2011, 12:47 PM   #26
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I use Unique in my Kimber with good results.
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Old April 21, 2011, 12:51 PM   #27
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I have used Unique for over 30 years, and am not likely to change any time soon, even though it is a little sooty. For others who are looking for an easy-to-use powder, I recommend W231, HS6, or Universal Clays. I have never used TiteGroup, but I have friends who use it and love it.

I generally advise new loaders to avoid Bullseye. It has very low load density and a double charge is very hard to spot, as opposed to Unique, where a double charge will overflow the case and be all over the press, the bench, the loading block, the floor . . .
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Old April 21, 2011, 05:46 PM   #28
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Can't beat HP38/231, I've been using this in my Colt Gold Cup for over 30 yrs.
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Old April 22, 2011, 05:59 PM   #29
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231 has been my #1 choice for at lest 30 years. Accurate loads have never been a problem with it, it's clean, measures well, etc..... WST is also a good choice if you can't find 231 (same as HP-38). AA5 also works well but I have my 231 loads that work so well, why change.
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Old April 22, 2011, 07:24 PM   #30
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231 and AA#5 for me. I have tried Clays and although clean, too light.
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Old April 22, 2011, 07:55 PM   #31
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Old April 24, 2011, 12:11 AM   #32
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My favorite powder is Clays. I used this to match a duty load that was used by a police department I was loading for. I have had good success with 700x and have used 231 if someone insists. Don't particularly like 231.

I do have a question though. I have a large quantity of 452AA powder. Years ago I used it in 45ACP. Is there any good reason not to use it?
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Old April 24, 2011, 07:26 AM   #33
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WW452 should work just fine. I just shot the last of mine in my .45. WST is very close, if you want to get more.
I'm a fan of Unique, and always have some in the cabinet. I don't use it in the auto, tho'. The same with Herco. There are just too many others that work better.
I used both, and enjoyed both in an M17 S&W, usually with a slightly heavy bullet...say a 255gr.
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Old April 25, 2011, 07:26 AM   #34
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Clifford, what weight bullet was that load to take the hog?

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Old April 25, 2011, 09:06 AM   #35
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ALL of my thousands of .45 ACP handloads (including .45 Auto Rim) have been loaded with WW 231.

I doubt if I'll ever use another powder.
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Old April 25, 2011, 12:20 PM   #36
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HS-6, I did a 100 two weeks ago, went through half of them last week, no problems, 230cast RN, 7.5 of HS-6, also have Clays to try out next, grouping @12yds, 14 rounds, in the O-Tay ( index finger touching thumb) group, whats that 1.75"-2.00" group, ran through a 3"Colt Defender, I'am sold, thanks for the time~~~><>.
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Old April 25, 2011, 07:33 PM   #37
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win 231 5.0 GR. with 200 gr swc
I just switched to Clays 3.5 sweet load and a tack driver in my SA 1911
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Old April 25, 2011, 08:18 PM   #38
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So far I have used Bullseye, Unique, and most recently WST with 200 grain LSWC.
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Old April 25, 2011, 08:59 PM   #39
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After trying quite a variety, my favorite is HP38.
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Old April 27, 2011, 06:57 PM   #40
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I like 700X, W231 & Ramshot Silouette (sp). I want to try Ramshot True Blue next.
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Old April 27, 2011, 07:25 PM   #41
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I like 700X, W231 & Ramshot Silouette (sp). I want to try Ramshot True Blue next.
Jeff Cooper had a favorite load using 700 X.

I use W231.

1. Very common and easy to find.

2. Meters VERY well. It's a flattened ball powder.

3. Not particularly dirty.

4. Every manual has loads for W231 (except for those that use their powders exclusively).

5. Works well from light target loads to full power hardball.

6. I've found this powder to be very consistent from one lot to another.

Yes, I know we all have our favorites. Unique has been used for years and is versatile. Lot's of other suitable powders.

I tried Winchester Actioin Pistol (WAP) and it was fine, though velocity variations were higher. I now use it for 9mm and .40 cal, for which it's excellent. WAP was discontinued by Win. and is available as RamShot Silhouette.

CAUTION: When I compared WAP with Silhouette using my chronograph, the results were exactly the same---where the charge weights were concerned.

BUT, the two metered differently VOLUME wise! By quite a bit. You have to readust your powder measure between the two.

So don't assume. Verify with your scale.
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Old April 27, 2011, 07:32 PM   #42
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We could take a lesson from competition shooters. Couple decades ago (or was it longer?), the .45 was the King of IPSC.

The two most popular powders for competition shooters, who fired many thousand of rounds in practice, was Bullseye and W231.

Some shooters felt they could detect slightly less recoil with Bullsye.

Both are among the faster buring pistol powders.
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