The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Hide > The Art of the Rifle: General

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old February 17, 2011, 04:35 PM   #1
cman
Junior Member
 
Join Date: February 14, 2011
Posts: 7
Deer+7.62x39mm...will it get the job done?

I want a Ruger Mini 30 bc they are decently priced semi auto with some power it looks like. Has anyone hunted with a gun chambered in the 7.62x39, specifically for deer & or medium to large game? How effective was the round?
cman is offline  
Old February 17, 2011, 04:39 PM   #2
precision_shooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 8, 2007
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 1,556
As long as you can find quality hunting bullets that are made to expand, then the 7.62x39 is more than sufficient for Deer within 200 yards. Bullet selection is key on this one. Not many MFG's make hunting ammo in 7.62x39 so it becomes more of a handloader's hunting cartridge...
__________________
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson, 1776
precision_shooter is offline  
Old February 17, 2011, 04:40 PM   #3
egor20
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 14, 2010
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 1,762
I use a Russian SKS, I get at least one deer a year for the last five years I've been hunting with it. Just remember your not going to be making too many shots past 100 yards with it.
__________________
Chief stall mucker and grain chef

Country don't mean dumb.
Steven King. The Stand
egor20 is offline  
Old February 17, 2011, 04:46 PM   #4
Beentown71
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 1, 2009
Location: Midwest
Posts: 1,491
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produc...low-point-ammo

I have used the above on Yotes with great results. The last one was at 175 yards and dropped like a rock.

Beentown
__________________
Μολὼν λάβε

Time for the Mall Ninja list:
Beretta 92fs, Springer XD9, High Standard Model HB, RRA bull bbl...aw heck with it time to go plink
Beentown71 is offline  
Old February 17, 2011, 06:58 PM   #5
Crosshair
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 16, 2004
Location: Grand Forks, ND
Posts: 5,320
The Brown Bear 125 grain SP is a good load.
__________________
I don't carry a gun to go looking for trouble, I carry a gun in case trouble finds me.
Crosshair is offline  
Old February 17, 2011, 07:02 PM   #6
Kreyzhorse
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 12, 2006
Location: NKY
Posts: 11,456
It will get the job done. Find a good hunting round and put the shot where it needs to go and you'll have a tag filled.
__________________
"He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson
Kreyzhorse is offline  
Old February 17, 2011, 08:13 PM   #7
wnycollector
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 22, 2007
Posts: 1,828
You might want to check out wolf's 154gr SP ammo. It's ballistics are similar to the venerable 30-30 150gr FSP loading.
wnycollector is offline  
Old February 17, 2011, 08:37 PM   #8
Palmetto-Pride
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 31, 2009
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 1,875
I shot my first deer with a SKS 7.62x39 he drop where he stood, shot placement is the key on any round.
__________________
“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”

-Margaret Thatcher-
Palmetto-Pride is offline  
Old February 17, 2011, 09:08 PM   #9
Rugerismisticness
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 22, 2010
Posts: 909
Yes a 7.62x39 will do it. I would like to use a thumbhole AK or a Ruger Mini 30, Ruger also has a new Bolt 7.62x39.
Rugerismisticness is offline  
Old February 17, 2011, 10:16 PM   #10
lefteyedom
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 7, 2010
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 332
7.62X39..... about the same as a 30-30

7.62X39..... about the same as a 30-30 on game.

It will get the job done. Make sure your rifle is accurate enough and use hunting ammo not FMJ ball.

Most of the SKS/AKs I have shot are not accurate enough over 150 yards. Some may be but many are not. What ever distant you can keep 3 or 4 shots inside a coffee can lid is your deer range.


That said, I would rather use a 243, 257 roberts, 260, 7-08 on deer .
__________________
Superman, you are a mean drunk
lefteyedom is offline  
Old February 17, 2011, 11:19 PM   #11
Bamashooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 12, 2010
Posts: 1,708
When I was younger I used to hunt with a norinco sks. It was effective enough inside 100yrds. I didnt have a scope on it so I tried to limit my shots to ones I knew I could make without one. I think with a good scope you could up the range some.
Bamashooter is offline  
Old February 18, 2011, 04:59 AM   #12
44 AMP
Staff
 
Join Date: March 11, 2006
Location: Upper US
Posts: 11,131
Standard loadings:
7.62x39mm: 129gr bullet @ 2200fps
.30-30 Win: 150gr bullet @ 2200fps

Very slight difference in energy on paper.

I doubt a deer will be able to tell the difference.
__________________
All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.
44 AMP is offline  
Old February 18, 2011, 09:36 AM   #13
tirod
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 21, 2009
Posts: 1,161
Will X39 do the job, yes.

Are there better calibers with more energy, a longer point blank range, and flatter trajectory, yes.

Note that X39 has less power than .30-30, and neither are much known for flat trajectory or range. As a woodland short range gun, they do. Anything over 300 yards and substantial bullet drop is an issue. Stepping up to a slightly smaller caliber with higher speed will flatten the trajectory and extend range.

Do I hunt with a .30-30, yes, but the AR15 is almost finished, and I'll use it from now on. It will use .270 bullets in an AR compatible length case, and has 40% more power than 5.56, flatter trajectory than .30-30, and longer range. It'll do.
tirod is offline  
Old February 18, 2011, 10:17 AM   #14
bamaranger
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 9, 2009
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 4,271
deer

Bamaboy and myself have taken near half dozen whitetails w/ a 7.62 x 39 rifles, in our case a stainless "boat paddle" Ruger M77II bolt w/ a Leu 2-7x scope, or a Mini-30 w/ a 1-4x Leupold. The load in each case was a handload with the now defunct Sierra 135 gr SSP bullet and enough propellant to get same to an estimated 2300 fps from the longer barreled M77.

Results were positive, ie, two animals, were DRT, the others ran the typical 20-30 or more yards before collapsing. Recoil is naught, the rifles are incredibly easy to shoot. We zero them 1 inch high at 100, and find 1.5 MOA groups easy to obtain w/ the M77. The Mini does not do as well with groups, but still holds minute of deer. All of our use is at woods ranges and we have not taken a shot, past 100, in fact, as I ponder it, past 75 yds, some half of that.

Alas, the 135 slug is no longer made by Sierra. But...contrary to some posts prior, both Win, Rem and Federal make quality 125 grain loads that would be completely sufficient for deer. I shot the Mini this year with the Brown Bear 125 SP, but did not take a deer, no opportunity. I would avoid the import JHP's, reports are they are not predictable in expansion. My skimpy tests indicate they are frangible, others report they do not expand.
bamaranger is offline  
Old February 18, 2011, 03:21 PM   #15
TChase
Member
 
Join Date: December 6, 2010
Posts: 36
Quote:
The Brown Bear 125 grain SP is a good load.
This- I use to take deer with them.
TChase is offline  
Old February 18, 2011, 04:26 PM   #16
Gunplummer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 11, 2010
Location: South East Pa.
Posts: 1,401
I load 150 grain Rem Corkokt and used it on two deer. No complaints.
Gunplummer is offline  
Old February 18, 2011, 10:39 PM   #17
armedtotheteeth
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 3, 2005
Location: podunk, Texas
Posts: 1,610
It'll work fine..but..heed warnings about the ball ammo. I got into a very large group of hogs..5 magazines worth. The last mag was full of lake city 5.56 ball ammo. It went through the hogs like an icepick out to about 400 yards. I use hornandy vmax55 grain in my 223. Drops hogs and deer like a brick. The 7.62 is more power..but far less accuracy. Keep your shots close..you'll do fine..heart..lung shot with expanding ammo will do the trick.
__________________
a well placed 22 bullet will out perform a poorly placed 50 BMg anyday. , Not really HA!!
armedtotheteeth is offline  
Old February 18, 2011, 10:44 PM   #18
rantingredneck
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 12, 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 4,728
I'll chime in as others have that a Russian SKS accounted for a couple of whitetails in my early hunting career. I was using a domestically produced 123-125 grain JSP round. IIRC it was a Winchester USA load. It has been years since I've even owned an SKS though so the details are fuzzy. I do remember that it worked and that the deer didn't run far if at all.

The comparisons to the .30-30 are valid as the two are very close and I think everyone is well aware of how many deer have fallen to the .30-30 over the years.

If you can put the bullet where it needs to go it will do what it needs to do.
__________________
NRA Member
NC Hunter's Education Instructor

PCCA Member (What's PCCA you ask? <- Check the link)
rantingredneck is offline  
Old February 18, 2011, 10:50 PM   #19
huntinaz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 21, 2010
Location: az
Posts: 994
Put that bullet where it needs to go and you'll put deer down.
__________________
"Once you quit hearing sir and ma'am, the rest is soon to follow." - Cormack McCarthy
"Feed me, or feed me to something. I just want to be part of the food chain." -Al Bundy
huntinaz is offline  
Old February 19, 2011, 01:50 AM   #20
fletchbutt152
Member
 
Join Date: February 10, 2006
Posts: 60
Sure!

Just aim at the flock of geese and you might lob it far enough to hit the deer. I wouldn't use it on game farther than 175 yards. Not that I couldn't just in the places I hunt we will get 300+ yard shots. It would be rare that I'd carry it.
fletchbutt152 is offline  
Reply

Tags
mini 30 , ruger

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.12059 seconds with 9 queries