Tough Choices........

Szusa071 · January 14, 2011, 10:33 PM

First, I'm new to this so I'll try to make it somewhat understandable. This will be my first handgun purchase and have been doing some research taking several things into consideration (price, purpose and feel) and am looking for a little more info that maybe some more experienced owners can help with.

My choices:

Sig P250 ($399)
CZ P07 Duty ($399)

- both are 9mm

I am basically wanting to get some more opinions of the two compare to each other as far as pros and cons and also warranty/customer service advantages too.

I have handled both and have to say both feel really great in my hand and sight easy and natural for me. As I said.....tough choice.

Any help/opinions would be greatly appreciated.

gruntrus · January 14, 2011, 10:40 PM

I don't own either.

My 9mm is a 9 Pro Series.

You will get a dozen differing opinions but on your first pistol the grip feeling and the training you receive for it are most important.

Most important, have fun with whatever you buy.

proxpilot · January 14, 2011, 10:54 PM

3....2....1 Queue ATF report on SIG p250!!

the SIG can be found on Budsgunshop.com for around $360. I like the compact version.

dondavis3 · January 14, 2011, 10:57 PM

I own both a Sig P250 and a CZ (mine happens to be a 75b Compact)

I generally like Sigs better than any other brand of guns.

But I carry my CZ 75b daily and it is a fine gun IMHO

I love this gun

PITT5150 · January 15, 2011, 12:27 AM

Glock Gen4 G19

rj2 · January 15, 2011, 01:32 AM

sig sp2022 can also be found for $400 and is a better gun than the p250, one of the best pistols for the money IMO

kenno · January 15, 2011, 01:49 AM

1st define your POU, Philosophy Of Use (or Purpose Of Use)
list all the things you think would make a perfect handgun for YOUR needs (don't forget weight and ergonomics).
I, for instance hate Sigs, because they do not fit my hand! I cannot hit sheet with them, even though there are Mfg'd to NASA standards! I can shoot many different handguns well but not the SIG
My wife likes a Star, even though I think it is junk, it fits her hand.
So do not take personal oppinions as Gosphel
Try each fire arm then comapre your choices.

Mosin44az · January 15, 2011, 03:20 AM

I own both right now. You are right, they are pretty close.

SIG comes with night sights standard, a nice touch, but only one magazine, pretty annoying. Extra mags go for @ $40 each as far as I can tell. The DAO trigger is very light, it's easy to shoot the SIG accurately at reasonable ranges. The grip circumference and feel, and trigger reach are much better than the "classic" SIGs, in my opinion.

Don't be impressed by the "modular" nature of the SIG, those caliber kits are very expensive, like buying another gun--unless they have plunged in price lately like the P250 itself.

The P-07 Duty comes with 2 mags but it doesn't seem night sights are available yet for it, though I haven't checked in the last couple of weeks. Very nice DA trigger, doesn't "throw" the DA shot off much at all, I can hit the bullseye DA pretty regularly. I seem to shoot the CZ better overall, especially at longer ranges, from 10 yards on.

Neither has been perfect in terms of reliability, but both are reliable enough that you shouldn't have much trouble, and should be able to find a defense load that works pretty easily.

Both are a bit plasticky in their feel, the SIG more so to me. I bought my P250 at a much higher price, but it seems you won't meet that misfortune.

I am thinking of selling one of mine to get a Kahr PM9, which fits my pocket needs. But they are so close I am also thinking of keeping them both.

Buy the CZ P-07 Duty first, and see if that kills your hankering for the SIG. It probably will.

chris in va · January 15, 2011, 04:14 AM

Kills me to say this to a new shooter, but...Glock 19 3rd gen.

The Sig 250 has a spotty record, and the CZ P07 a bit of an oddball, especially if you need holsters and other interesting bits (sights etc).

Look around, plenty of G19 deals to be had.

PIGMAN · January 15, 2011, 05:00 AM

Since I am a huge fan of John Browning check out the Browning 9mm High Power.Browning said this was the best pistol he designed and prefered the High Power over the 1911 .45 Govt.

In my opinion the finest 9mm of all time is the P-08 Luger.Besides being a work of art that shoots it is collectable and will go up in value over time.

varoadking · January 15, 2011, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Glock Gen4 G19

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Join GSSF and get one for $425.00...

Texcowboy · January 15, 2011, 09:55 AM

Glock 19, Gen 3. Easy to carry, easy to field strip, reliable, durable, accurate and if need be you can skip cleaning and lubrication for awhile. I mention the cleaning and lubrication only in case of emergency where you have to go for a period without, however, with that said with routine use i do clean and lubricate.

10Ringmagic · January 15, 2011, 10:24 AM

Another vote for the G19, arguably the best CCW in 9mm.

jmortimer · January 15, 2011, 10:41 AM

Ruger SR9 or SR9c as reliable as a semi-auto gets, feels great and is a good deal for the $$$. I'll take it over a glock 19 any day. Ruger is on a roll. glock, not so much.

wbw · January 15, 2011, 10:43 AM

You're probably going to get as many answers as there are 9mm pistols.

dondavis3 · January 15, 2011, 11:35 AM

@ rj2 Now your talking -

I like my SP2022 ten times better than my P250.

I added front cocking serrations and I had CCR refinish the slide

She looks like this now

My SP2022 has a better trigger straight from the factory than most of my other Sig's.

IMightBeWrong · January 15, 2011, 01:08 PM

Didn't want to suggest anything else because in my experience going with my gut feeling is usually best. Your gut led you to two choices, and I picked the CZ because IMO it's the finer choice by a mile.

good luck!

Szusa071 · January 15, 2011, 01:45 PM

Thanks to all, I've continued doing some research and extended it to include some of your suggestions. Seems like some of the best deals are online, how is it purchasing a gun online? What can I reasonable expect to tack on to the price as far as fees (ffl) go?

Again, thanks for all your suggestions, and with a show coming up this weekend I should get to examine a few up close to help me decide. Also, should I be expectin to save any money at a gun show? Never been before, just wondering.

jaughtman · January 15, 2011, 01:53 PM

I agree with the G19 folks. I own one and it is my standard bedside gun. It is not my favorite/range gun however - that would be my Hi Power. But the ease of operation, reliability, etc. would make it my first choice for a newbie.

J

rjksx1 · January 15, 2011, 03:27 PM

if you like TDA, 2022. if you are a fan of

DAO, P250. the new gen are good guns at a nice price.

View Poll Results: Your choice
Sig 250 Compact 9mm	3	9.09%
CZ P07 Duty 9mm	17	51.52%
Other....leave option in post	13	39.39%
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

January 14, 2011, 10:33 PM	#1
Szusa071 Junior Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Posts: 3	Tough Choices........ First, I'm new to this so I'll try to make it somewhat understandable. This will be my first handgun purchase and have been doing some research taking several things into consideration (price, purpose and feel) and am looking for a little more info that maybe some more experienced owners can help with. My choices: Sig P250 ($399) CZ P07 Duty ($399) - both are 9mm I am basically wanting to get some more opinions of the two compare to each other as far as pros and cons and also warranty/customer service advantages too. I have handled both and have to say both feel really great in my hand and sight easy and natural for me. As I said.....tough choice. Any help/opinions would be greatly appreciated.

January 14, 2011, 10:54 PM	#3
proxpilot Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2010 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 588	3....2....1 Queue ATF report on SIG p250!! the SIG can be found on Budsgunshop.com for around $360. I like the compact version. __________________ W. German SIG Sauer p226 W. German SIG Sauer P6 Springfield Armory XD-S

January 14, 2011, 10:57 PM	#4
dondavis3 Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2009 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth Area Posts: 662	I own both a Sig P250 and a CZ (mine happens to be a 75b Compact) I generally like Sigs better than any other brand of guns. But I carry my CZ 75b daily and it is a fine gun IMHO I love this gun __________________ Don Davis

January 15, 2011, 05:00 AM	#10
PIGMAN Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2011 Location: ARIZONA Posts: 175	Since I am a huge fan of John Browning check out the Browning 9mm High Power.Browning said this was the best pistol he designed and prefered the High Power over the 1911 .45 Govt. In my opinion the finest 9mm of all time is the P-08 Luger.Besides being a work of art that shoots it is collectable and will go up in value over time. Last edited by PIGMAN; January 15, 2011 at 05:10 AM.

January 14, 2011, 10:40 PM	#2
gruntrus Junior member Join Date: July 24, 2008 Posts: 176	I don't own either. My 9mm is a 9 Pro Series. You will get a dozen differing opinions but on your first pistol the grip feeling and the training you receive for it are most important. Most important, have fun with whatever you buy.

January 15, 2011, 12:27 AM	#5
PITT5150 Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2010 Posts: 118	Glock Gen4 G19

January 15, 2011, 01:32 AM	#6
rj2 Junior Member Join Date: December 1, 2010 Posts: 4	sig sp2022 can also be found for $400 and is a better gun than the p250, one of the best pistols for the money IMO

January 15, 2011, 01:49 AM	#7
kenno Junior member Join Date: November 3, 2008 Posts: 180	1st define your POU, Philosophy Of Use (or Purpose Of Use) list all the things you think would make a perfect handgun for YOUR needs (don't forget weight and ergonomics). I, for instance hate Sigs, because they do not fit my hand! I cannot hit sheet with them, even though there are Mfg'd to NASA standards! I can shoot many different handguns well but not the SIG My wife likes a Star, even though I think it is junk, it fits her hand. So do not take personal oppinions as Gosphel Try each fire arm then comapre your choices.

January 15, 2011, 03:20 AM	#8
Mosin44az Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2006 Posts: 2,071	I own both right now. You are right, they are pretty close. SIG comes with night sights standard, a nice touch, but only one magazine, pretty annoying. Extra mags go for @ $40 each as far as I can tell. The DAO trigger is very light, it's easy to shoot the SIG accurately at reasonable ranges. The grip circumference and feel, and trigger reach are much better than the "classic" SIGs, in my opinion. Don't be impressed by the "modular" nature of the SIG, those caliber kits are very expensive, like buying another gun--unless they have plunged in price lately like the P250 itself. The P-07 Duty comes with 2 mags but it doesn't seem night sights are available yet for it, though I haven't checked in the last couple of weeks. Very nice DA trigger, doesn't "throw" the DA shot off much at all, I can hit the bullseye DA pretty regularly. I seem to shoot the CZ better overall, especially at longer ranges, from 10 yards on. Neither has been perfect in terms of reliability, but both are reliable enough that you shouldn't have much trouble, and should be able to find a defense load that works pretty easily. Both are a bit plasticky in their feel, the SIG more so to me. I bought my P250 at a much higher price, but it seems you won't meet that misfortune. I am thinking of selling one of mine to get a Kahr PM9, which fits my pocket needs. But they are so close I am also thinking of keeping them both. Buy the CZ P-07 Duty first, and see if that kills your hankering for the SIG. It probably will.

January 15, 2011, 04:14 AM	#9
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 11,723	Kills me to say this to a new shooter, but...Glock 19 3rd gen. The Sig 250 has a spotty record, and the CZ P07 a bit of an oddball, especially if you need holsters and other interesting bits (sights etc). Look around, plenty of G19 deals to be had.

January 15, 2011, 09:55 AM	#12
Texcowboy Member Join Date: December 21, 2010 Location: Ft Worth, Texas Posts: 85	Glock 19, Gen 3. Easy to carry, easy to field strip, reliable, durable, accurate and if need be you can skip cleaning and lubrication for awhile. I mention the cleaning and lubrication only in case of emergency where you have to go for a period without, however, with that said with routine use i do clean and lubricate.

January 15, 2011, 10:24 AM	#13
10Ringmagic Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2010 Location: MI Posts: 289	Another vote for the G19, arguably the best CCW in 9mm.

January 15, 2011, 10:41 AM	#14
jmortimer Junior member Join Date: January 24, 2010 Location: South West Riverside County California Posts: 2,765	Ruger SR9 or SR9c as reliable as a semi-auto gets, feels great and is a good deal for the $$$. I'll take it over a glock 19 any day. Ruger is on a roll. glock, not so much.

January 15, 2011, 10:43 AM	#15
wbw Senior Member Join Date: August 18, 2008 Posts: 639	You're probably going to get as many answers as there are 9mm pistols.

January 15, 2011, 11:35 AM	#16
dondavis3 Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2009 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth Area Posts: 662	@ rj2 Now your talking - I like my SP2022 ten times better than my P250. I added front cocking serrations and I had CCR refinish the slide She looks like this now My SP2022 has a better trigger straight from the factory than most of my other Sig's. __________________ Don Davis

January 15, 2011, 01:08 PM	#17
IMightBeWrong Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2009 Posts: 509	Didn't want to suggest anything else because in my experience going with my gut feeling is usually best. Your gut led you to two choices, and I picked the CZ because IMO it's the finer choice by a mile. good luck! __________________ "Intelligence is nothing more than discussing things with others. Limitless wisdom comes of this." - 山本常朝

January 15, 2011, 01:45 PM	#18
Szusa071 Junior Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Posts: 3	Thanks to all, I've continued doing some research and extended it to include some of your suggestions. Seems like some of the best deals are online, how is it purchasing a gun online? What can I reasonable expect to tack on to the price as far as fees (ffl) go? Again, thanks for all your suggestions, and with a show coming up this weekend I should get to examine a few up close to help me decide. Also, should I be expectin to save any money at a gun show? Never been before, just wondering.

January 15, 2011, 01:53 PM	#19
jaughtman Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2010 Posts: 621	Since you did say you are new.... I agree with the G19 folks. I own one and it is my standard bedside gun. It is not my favorite/range gun however - that would be my Hi Power. But the ease of operation, reliability, etc. would make it my first choice for a newbie. J

January 15, 2011, 03:27 PM	#20
rjksx1 Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Posts: 165	if you like TDA, 2022. if you are a fan of DAO, P250. the new gen are good guns at a nice price.