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Old October 12, 2010, 06:39 AM   #1
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Penetration targets

What targets do you guys use to gauge penetration and depth? I don't really have any access to any big blocks of ballistics gel
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Old October 12, 2010, 08:07 AM   #2
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I have used old newspapers both wet and dry in paper grocery sacks and phone books.
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Old October 12, 2010, 08:14 AM   #3
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Milk jugs full of water.

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http://www.theboxotruth.com/
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Old October 13, 2010, 12:39 PM   #4
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Milk jugs bust open too easily. I use heavier vinyl jugs like detergent or gun powder comes in.

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Old October 13, 2010, 12:59 PM   #5
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Milk jugs bust open too easily.
I use what I have on hand: 5 kids = more empty gallon milk jugs than I want to think about, considering the cost of milk.

Besides, it is the water that provides the mass to stop the bullets.
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Old October 13, 2010, 04:04 PM   #6
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It's all for fun anyway.... but the water displaces faster in a regular milk gallon jug.

A guy on another forum had tested the same ammo I had in the pic above. (45 acp Ranger). Anyway I got much less penetration than he did because my vinyl jugs didn't burst.

It's not a "my way is better" thing. It's just that you'll get different penetration results with a more stout jug. I don't know which one is more indicative of performance on a bad guy.
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Old October 13, 2010, 04:10 PM   #7
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I don't know which one is more indicative of performance on a bad guy.
Depends upon the degree of "stoutness" of the BG.... or maybe the consistency of the BG..... Fat guys more like the milk jugs, tweakers like..... I'd think they'd be stringy.... be like shooting a large hemp plant.....
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Old October 13, 2010, 04:32 PM   #8
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One gallon water jugs - if it's good enough for the Box O'Truth then it's good enough for me.
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Old October 14, 2010, 03:35 AM   #9
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In medic school we worked on pigs because they're very similar to human and the skin is nearly identical. . . maybe i should just hang some pork out at the range and have at it
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Old October 14, 2010, 06:59 AM   #10
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Maybe we can convince the government to let us test out penetration on a bunch of bad guys all lined up in different positions, etc, this will take care of several problems at once (free up prison space, get rid of bad guys, save money, get some good test info, etc).


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Old October 15, 2010, 05:09 PM   #11
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Fackler Box


Fill with Ziplock storage baggies

Wetpack works well, too
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