Can anyone help identify this gun ? HELP

SNIPE4STUFF · September 14, 2010, 11:00 PM

I have a very old gun double barrel 2 hammers 2 triggers.

Possibly from Belgium ? FDC is stamped on receiver under hammers.

hand carved wood grips 410 or 45 ACP. Can anyone help me ?

thanks in advance for a new guy here.

Robert

Bill DeShivs · September 15, 2010, 12:51 AM

I can guarantee that it is NOT .45 ACP or .410!
It's a typical European (probably Belgium) double barreled pistol from around 1900.

evoasis · September 15, 2010, 03:47 AM

Shotgun? haha sweeeet

ZEN.45 · September 15, 2010, 05:24 AM

Your gun was made about 100 years ago by ‘Francois Dumoulin & C°’ (FDC) in Liege, Belgium, one of many artisanal gunmakers in that region at that time.

This type of double barreled pistols was referred to as ‘arme éccosaise’ (sc ottisch gun) although later they became known as ‘pistolet brésilien’ (Brazilian pistol) because Brazil was the main export destination for this kind of gun. The gun was made in a variety of calibers depending on customers wishes.

mapsjanhere · September 15, 2010, 08:24 AM

Unusual placement of the Belgian proof mark on the locking lever.

**James K** · September 16, 2010, 12:50 PM

ZEN.45 is correct; those were inexpensive guns, made primarily for export.

It is my understanding that for years, Brazil has had a law restricting guns that can be sold to the native peoples to two shots, which would explain the vast numbers of those double handguns made and sold in that country. If I am incorrect, I hope someone will correct me, but that has been my understanding.

Jim

SNIPE4STUFF · September 17, 2010, 04:44 PM

Thank you guys for your wisdom on this. What is it worth ???

Also what do you think of the gsg-5 22,s ??

Thanks robert

SNIPE4STUFF · September 17, 2010, 04:47 PM

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Thank you guys for your wisdom on this. What is it worth ???

Also what do you think of the gsg-5 22,s ??

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SNIPE4STUFF · September 27, 2010, 08:29 PM

:btt what is it worth >???

Thanks

RJay · September 28, 2010, 12:22 AM

Well, it is cruddie, the grips for some reason don't fit right, buggered up screw heads and if it has rifled barrels it is probably an obsolete round such as the 12 MM. As a curio or wall hanger I think 75 to 125 would be right. Anyone else want to chime in?

gyvel · September 28, 2010, 04:09 AM

Also known as a "garrucha."

September 15, 2010, 12:51 AM	#2
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 6,455	I can guarantee that it is NOT .45 ACP or .410! It's a typical European (probably Belgium) double barreled pistol from around 1900. __________________ Bill DeShivs www.billdeshivs.com

September 15, 2010, 05:24 AM	#4
ZEN.45 Member Join Date: September 26, 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 91	Your gun was made about 100 years ago by ‘Francois Dumoulin & C°’ (FDC) in Liege, Belgium, one of many artisanal gunmakers in that region at that time. This type of double barreled pistols was referred to as ‘arme éccosaise’ (sc ottisch gun) although later they became known as ‘pistolet brésilien’ (Brazilian pistol) because Brazil was the main export destination for this kind of gun. The gun was made in a variety of calibers depending on customers wishes. __________________ "Now, now my good man, this is no time to be making enemies." - Voltaire on his deathbed, in response to a priest who asked him to renounce Satan -

September 15, 2010, 08:24 AM	#5
mapsjanhere Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,269	Unusual placement of the Belgian proof mark on the locking lever. __________________ F 135 - the right choice

September 16, 2010, 12:50 PM	#6
James K Staff Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 16,403	ZEN.45 is correct; those were inexpensive guns, made primarily for export. It is my understanding that for years, Brazil has had a law restricting guns that can be sold to the native peoples to two shots, which would explain the vast numbers of those double handguns made and sold in that country. If I am incorrect, I hope someone will correct me, but that has been my understanding. Jim __________________ Jim K

September 17, 2010, 04:44 PM	#7
SNIPE4STUFF Junior Member Join Date: September 11, 2010 Posts: 4	Thanks Thank you guys for your wisdom on this. What is it worth ??? Also what do you think of the gsg-5 22,s ?? Thanks robert

September 15, 2010, 03:47 AM	#3
evoasis Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: no longer in CA Posts: 24	Shotgun? haha sweeeet

September 27, 2010, 08:29 PM	#10
SNIPE4STUFF Junior Member Join Date: September 11, 2010 Posts: 4	Double barrel :btt what is it worth >??? Thanks

September 28, 2010, 12:22 AM	#11
RJay Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,415	Well, it is cruddie, the grips for some reason don't fit right, buggered up screw heads and if it has rifled barrels it is probably an obsolete round such as the 12 MM. As a curio or wall hanger I think 75 to 125 would be right. Anyone else want to chime in?

September 28, 2010, 04:09 AM	#12
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 3,458	Also known as a "garrucha."