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Old November 27, 2000, 02:03 AM   #1
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I have data for a good basic loading using 255gr.lead over 7.1 grs. of WW 231 but can I shoot higher pressures and more velocity out of this carbine than what is published for .45LC revolvers or antique guns?
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Old November 27, 2000, 05:00 PM   #2
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Here are a few loads that have a bit of snap. You should be able to fine one that will work in your model 94.

http://www.realguns.com/loads/45colt.htm


Good Luck...

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PS: Don't forget, even though your model 94 may be fairly new, the design is over 100 years old. Don't get carried away!!

[Edited by JoeHatley on 11-27-2000 at 08:00 PM]
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Old November 27, 2000, 05:36 PM   #3
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Loads

I've got a Uberti 1873 in 45 Colt with a 30 inch barrel. What I've been using are cast SAECO bullets #458 which weigh 242 grains in linotype or 257 grains in wheelweights driven by 8.6 grains of Unique and sized to 0.451. Seems to work well.
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Old November 28, 2000, 02:10 PM   #4
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JoeHatley,
Are those loadings for Rugers and T/C's? What I'm seeing is a distinct category separate from loadings that do not exceed approx. 900 fps.
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Old November 28, 2000, 06:15 PM   #5
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tuc22,

Yes. All the loads on that page are for a Ruger Blackhawk.

I've heard opinions both ways as to whether the 94 is stronger or weaker than a Blackhawk. I really don't know. My lever action experience has been with Marlins. I would quess they are pretty close, but for safties sake start conservative and work up to the level you are comfortable with.

BTW: My favorite .45 colt load is a 200 grain cast bullet, over 7.2 grains of Bullseye, for about 900 fps. Very accurate in every gun I've tried it in.

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Old November 29, 2000, 05:31 AM   #6
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Until I find some definitive data I'm going with a 255 gr. lead bullet over 7.1 grs. of WW231.
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Old November 29, 2000, 04:34 PM   #7
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45 COLT DATA FOR SIXGUNS AND RIFLES

Every loading manual currently published has loading data for the modern sized 45COLT sixguns, all of which is perfectly usable in a modern '94 carbine which easily contains 30/30 pressures. Data WAY above 44MAG in performance, but way UNDER 44MAG pressures, is in these manuals. You should own every manual published today plus every one of the old ones you can beg, borrow, or steal. TM
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Old November 30, 2000, 06:54 AM   #8
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.45 Colt

It has always been my understanding based on the older reloading manuals that I have, that the hotter loads are for Ruger Super Blackhawks and T/C's only. Luck, Quantrill
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Old November 30, 2000, 06:33 PM   #9
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45 COLT DATA FOR SIXGUNS AND RIFLES

Quantrill,
that admonition is for the other 45 COLT sixguns. The '94 WIN carbine will handle 40,000lbs of pressure with equanimity. 45COLT handloads that equal the 44MAG in ballistic output will do so at 1/3 less pressure than the 44MAG loads if you choose the right propellent. TM
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Old December 8, 2000, 12:21 PM   #10
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This is a dangerous area, but, I read an article a few years ago about a lad that had worked up loads for the 45LC IN THE MODEL 94 WINCHESTER to 2000fps. He was getting a fair amount of case head expansion on the first high pressure reload, then normal on loads after that. I'd say, go careful, but you have lots of saftey room in that action.
No I don't have the article now, or the data, wish I did.
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