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Old July 3, 2010, 01:06 PM   #126
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Why not? That is precisely what a sufficient majority of Americans can do under Article V of the Constitution. The only thing that precludes that end is obtaining a sufficient majority of people whose moral compasses have shifted far enough from what prevails today.
It is a super majority, not a simple majority.

It was set up that way to make the process difficult, and requiring large amounts of public support.
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Old July 3, 2010, 01:42 PM   #127
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Ive read this whole thread and can only ask...

Whys is it still open

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Old July 3, 2010, 02:19 PM   #128
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It is a super majority, not a simple majority.

It was set up that way to make the process difficult, and requiring large amounts of public support.
But 3/4 of the States can equate to a minority of the people. I think the "worst case" is that it would be about 40% of the people. Also, I think 95% of the people of the US might want an amendment but not equate to 3/4 of the States.
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Old July 3, 2010, 03:31 PM   #129
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Maestro?
Antipatis?

Are you guys researching the 14th Amendment? If you are maybe you can tell me if the following statement is true.

(I know I have read this before I just can't find a source to cite, and I don't want to assert something I can't prove. Since I can't prove it I will have to call it hearsay or rumor.)

When the 14th was "ratified" ,9 july 1868, 21 states ratified the amendment. Problem is at that time in American History 28 states were needed to meet the "3/4 of the several states" requirement. Can you help me out on this one? Thanks.

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Old July 3, 2010, 04:08 PM   #130
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Some-Dude, maybe this will help with your research of the 14th.

http://www.barefootsworld.net/14uncon.html
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Old July 3, 2010, 04:50 PM   #131
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Ive read this whole thread and can only ask...

Why is it still open
Don't know, since the Supreme Court pretty much answered this question.

Not in the way I'd have preferred, but for all intents and purposes, it's been answered.
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Old July 4, 2010, 09:14 AM   #132
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But 3/4 of the States can equate to a minority of the people. I think the "worst case" is that it would be about 40% of the people. Also, I think 95% of the people of the US might want an amendment but not equate to 3/4 of the States.
There is not a perfect solution, but the system we have seems to beat out all the others.

'Better is the enemy of good enough.'
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Old July 4, 2010, 11:12 AM   #133
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Does the 2nd apply to the states?

Does now!
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Old July 4, 2010, 11:49 AM   #134
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If anyone still thinks the 2A doesn't apply to the States ... Well, ya'll had your chance to say something about it.

SCOTUS has ruled it applies.

Asked, answered, and closed.
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