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Old February 10, 2010, 08:51 PM   #26
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mm-hmm...I dare anyone to show me an AR that can fire 100 straight rounds without becoming a jam-a-matic...
I hope you're joking. If your experience is solely with ARs that start jamming at under 100 rounds, you really ought to try out one that's worth having.
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Old February 10, 2010, 09:29 PM   #27
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AR-15

I did not think about the Mini-14, I had one years ago and had to sell it to buy something else but did keep a bunch of magazines. I think that when one comes along will buy it, love the 223 and it is a good rifle. I have the Alexander Arms in 50 Beowulf and that is what I really like about the AR platform is the versatility. Just buy an upper and you have a new gun, the Beowulf is a true powerhouse. The ammo cost a ton but load for all my guns so it is not that bad.

If an AR-15 jams after 100 rounds, something is wrong with it likely a magazine issue.
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Old February 10, 2010, 09:46 PM   #28
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I think what you really want is a Ruger Mini-14 in .223.
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Old February 11, 2010, 12:16 AM   #29
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I have a new 580 series mini-14 and I will say with this rifle no accu-strut type device is needed. Mine has the new tapered barrel. I have seen no POI change after the barrel gets hot. And when I shoot it it gets hot. I load a 20 round mag and shoot two 10 round groups. I have 9 Pro-Mag steel 20 rounders and they have worked perfectly without a single malfunction.

I would like to brag and say it shoots 1" groups at a hundred but that isn't so. I get between 2 and 3" groups. Its the best I can shoot with open sights. I haven't put a scope on it and don't plan on it in the future. It does just what I wanted it for without optics. If you buy a mini only buy the newest models.

I shot my new Remington model seven with open sights when it was new. The best I could do was between 2-3" at a hundred. Now it has a scope and 1" groups are the norm for it.

I don't have an AR. Not yet. I look at them at every gunshow I go to but they never have the style I want. There is a GS this weekend in Ft Worth and I may go and buy a stripped lower and order a Del-Ton kit. I really want an A2 buttstock with a 20" barrel. I like the way the old guns look. I have to have a carry handle too. A triangle forearm would be nice. A lightweight barrel also. I don't want a 9 pound AR. I think ARs are a lot more reliable than they are given credit for.

Every time I watch Platoon or Southern Comfort I get the bug for one of the retro style guns.
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Old February 11, 2010, 02:51 AM   #30
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Dumb Question?

First and foremost, I am actually shocked that this thread made it to 2 pages.

Okay, this may be the dumbest question yet, but I need to ask to avoid going the wrong route about this build. I am still leaning towards going the mini-14 route, and I am curious if I were to go with a Ruger Mini 14 Target Rifle-Hogue as seen on: http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...gue/index.html , it implys that that rifle is more accurate, which I could be the gullible one to believe that. If anyone knows otherwise let me know. Now back on track. If I take that rifle and change the stocks, or have someone more knowledgeable do it, and place it in a stock such as this one: http://www.cabelas.com/p-0054094229104a.shtml , wouldn't that be adequate. I am aware that with going with that rifle, I won't have the barrel sights that are customary for that brand, but if it is for the better accuracy wise, then it would be worth it.

By the Way, I am just trying to build this out in my head and then compare the price to if I were to go the AR route.
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Old February 11, 2010, 08:16 AM   #31
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Truthfully, I don't know the ATI stock, never seen one.

As for the target rifle...I dunno....I guess I didn't know Ruger had tried to put out a target version of it!

I quickly googled and found:
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-Mini14Target.htm

Also a few independant reports of 1" or under groups...So apparently it works.
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Old February 11, 2010, 08:59 AM   #32
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If you go the Mini 14 road I'd suggest getting a new one. If you go used, shop carefully because the older Mini-14's have very thin barrels. I don't shoot Minis but I hear the target version is very accurate. But if you can afford the Mini-14 target version, you can afford a good AR-15.
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Old February 11, 2010, 09:08 AM   #33
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mm-hmm...I dare anyone to show me an AR that can fire 100 straight rounds without becoming a jam-a-matic...
mine. I have shot hundreds of rounds out of my S&W AR15 in a single day without jams. I cant think of any jams since i've owned it. about a year. Granted, i am no pro or operator. I am a recreational shooter, but still. I trust my AR.
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Old February 11, 2010, 09:35 AM   #34
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That should be sufficient for your needs!
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Old February 11, 2010, 02:13 PM   #35
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Mini 14 Target

I am noticing that Mini 14 target rifles are anywhere from $650-$850 new. Still far under the AR prices.
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