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Old February 1, 2010, 02:21 AM   #26
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.308 for 300 yds

Beautiful LongRifles, Inc. I would be lucky to see a sheet of plywood at a 1,000 yards with eyes only, let alone hit it.
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Old February 1, 2010, 09:02 AM   #27
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Coupla thoughts:

1) Seems like there are some people who will never believe until they see it done live-and-in-person with their own eyes; maybe not even then

2) Some people consistently over-rate their abilities (are average or below-average shooters and don't know it)

3) The people who over-rate their abilities are more numerous than those who actually have above-average abilities and are honest about their achievements

4) Due to point # 3, it becomes too easy to mistake a person from group # 3 with someone from group # 2

5) This leads to the issue mentioned in point # 1
You only take one shot at a time - make it count.
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Old February 1, 2010, 10:13 AM   #28
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Longrifles, for some of these shooters long range is 100 yards!

I have shot with some of the best shooters out there when I lived in AZ, and I know what these people are capable of, it is just mind boggling to see how easy they shoot a clean at 1000 yards while you struggle not to shoot anything worse than an 8..

My claim to fame is that 8 years ago I did beat 28 out of 30 Marine shooters with M14's in a 1000 yard service rifle match (ran by Mid) shooting my stock Garand with Var barrel. That included shooting 2 misses when we had a 180 degree wind change that took me 10 minutes of windage to get back on target. These days I don't think I could see the targets any more.
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Old February 1, 2010, 03:20 PM   #29
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Chad, those are beautiful rifles!
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Old February 4, 2010, 09:54 AM   #30
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Under 2" is good. 1 MOA would be 3" it is ok but not match quality. 1/2 MOA or better for matches.
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Old February 4, 2010, 12:14 PM   #31
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3" is good. Any less than that has to be better than good.
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Old February 5, 2010, 12:30 AM   #32
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Lets just say I am humbled by what some can do with an "camera obscura" ( aka aperture sights. I need me one of those.
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Old February 5, 2010, 09:30 PM   #33
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"what would be considered a good grouping at 300 Yards using a bipod setup"?

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Old February 6, 2010, 09:53 AM   #34
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I hear about an read about one heck of a lot more MOA and sub MOA groups than I see. At the range I see mostly MOF (most of a foot) groups.
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bipod , good group size , long range , target

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