FS/FT sections... Tuttle?

**hogdogs** · February 2, 2010, 12:31 AM

Why does it seem that the preponderance of threads started in this help section are related to the FS/FT sections? Is it that tuttle is narcissistic or that the thread starters (or those who cannot) just fail to read the rules? Maybe tuttle expects just too much of folks...

Brent

**JohnKSa** · February 2, 2010, 04:04 AM

My take?

One TFL moderator has defined a "Sticky" thread as a clever means of hiding information from the members.

**hogdogs** · February 2, 2010, 11:24 AM

John, Maybe you are onto somethin' there...

Brent

**Mal H** · February 2, 2010, 11:48 AM

Oh, he definitely is. We have discussed this amongst the staff many times. If you want to hide something from the membership, put it in a sticky at the top of the forum! Seriously.

It's like Edgar Allan Poe's "Purloined Letter" - hidden in plain sight.

passintime · February 2, 2010, 04:48 PM

John/Mal,

I own a forum myself and it is SO TRUE about sticky's. If I want something to be communicated to the membership I do NOT sticky it. It never gets read!

**Shane Tuttle** · February 2, 2010, 09:53 PM

Sticky posts? Naw...

Hogdogs was right. I just expect too much of folks...

rantingredneck · February 2, 2010, 09:56 PM

As a mod on our local forum, yes, I concur. Stickies are the best way to make sure the membership will NEVER read the rules. It's best to let them float to the bottom of the section as we all know those 5 and 6 year old threads are very popular with new members with their newfound powers of necromancy.

Huntergirl · February 2, 2010, 11:32 PM

Simple rules....THAT'S IT!!!!! The rules are too simple. I think some members like to play doubledareya.

**Brian Pfleuger** · February 3, 2010, 12:24 PM

How about an automatic pop-up whenever someone starts a thread in buy/sell section?

Maybe it could be made to only do it the first time? I don't know.

**Mal H** · February 3, 2010, 01:22 PM

A very good suggestion, pk, but we are loathe to hack the vbulletin software with our own code. It causes some minor headaches at version upgrade time. Besides we really don't have anyone on staff with the knowledge to do that.

As an aside, I don't visit any, but I'll bet forums dedicated to computer geeks are just chock full of all kinds of bells, whistles, and widgets.

**Brian Pfleuger** · February 3, 2010, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal H

It causes some minor headaches at version upgrade time. Besides we really don't have anyone on staff with the knowledge to do that.

If you know it well enough to know that it causes headaches then you've got me beat!

**Shane Tuttle** · February 3, 2010, 03:58 PM

Quote:

How about an automatic pop-up whenever someone starts a thread in buy/sell section?

Problem is, Peetza, there will ALWAYS be some way for a member to "not see it" or "didn't receive enough help". No matter how much effort we put forth to make things as simple and smooth as possible, it will never be enough to satisfy everyone. So, we have to draw the line somewhere.

By the way, that was a very good suggestion...

February 2, 2010, 12:31 AM	#1
hogdogs Staff Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 10,684	FS/FT sections... Tuttle? Why does it seem that the preponderance of threads started in this help section are related to the FS/FT sections? Is it that tuttle is narcissistic or that the thread starters (or those who cannot) just fail to read the rules? Maybe tuttle expects just too much of folks... Brent __________________ Finally have designs going up in the Hogdogs Outdoor Apparel online store. http://www.cafepress.com/hogdogsoutdoorapparel Thanks for lookin'...

February 2, 2010, 04:04 AM	#2
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February 2, 2010, 11:24 AM	#3
hogdogs Staff Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 10,684	John, Maybe you are onto somethin' there... Brent __________________ Finally have designs going up in the Hogdogs Outdoor Apparel online store. http://www.cafepress.com/hogdogsoutdoorapparel Thanks for lookin'...

February 2, 2010, 09:53 PM	#6
Shane Tuttle Staff Join Date: November 28, 2005 Location: Blue Grass, IA Posts: 8,198	Sticky posts? Naw... Hogdogs was right. I just expect too much of folks... __________________ If it were up to me, the word "got" would be deleted from the English language. Posting and YOU: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting

February 2, 2010, 09:56 PM	#7
rantingredneck Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,729	As a mod on our local forum, yes, I concur. Stickies are the best way to make sure the membership will NEVER read the rules. It's best to let them float to the bottom of the section as we all know those 5 and 6 year old threads are very popular with new members with their newfound powers of necromancy. __________________ NRA Member NC Hunter's Education Instructor PCCA Member (What's PCCA you ask? <- Check the link)

February 2, 2010, 11:48 AM	#4
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern VA Posts: 14,065	Oh, he definitely is. We have discussed this amongst the staff many times. If you want to hide something from the membership, put it in a sticky at the top of the forum! Seriously. It's like Edgar Allan Poe's "Purloined Letter" - hidden in plain sight.

February 2, 2010, 04:48 PM	#5
passintime Senior Member Join Date: September 14, 2008 Location: WV Posts: 352	John/Mal, I own a forum myself and it is SO TRUE about sticky's. If I want something to be communicated to the membership I do NOT sticky it. It never gets read!

February 2, 2010, 11:32 PM	#8
Huntergirl Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2005 Location: Wyoming Posts: 907	Simple rules....THAT'S IT!!!!! The rules are too simple. I think some members like to play doubledareya.

February 3, 2010, 12:24 PM	#9
Brian Pfleuger Staff Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Central, Southern NY, USA Posts: 14,447	How about an automatic pop-up whenever someone starts a thread in buy/sell section? Maybe it could be made to only do it the first time? I don't know. __________________ Still happily answering to the call-sign Peetza. --- You do not HAVE a soul. You ARE a soul. You HAVE a body. -C.S. Lewis He is no fool who gives what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose. -Jim Eliott, paraphrasing Philip Henry.

February 3, 2010, 01:22 PM	#10
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern VA Posts: 14,065	A very good suggestion, pk, but we are loathe to hack the vbulletin software with our own code. It causes some minor headaches at version upgrade time. Besides we really don't have anyone on staff with the knowledge to do that. As an aside, I don't visit any, but I'll bet forums dedicated to computer geeks are just chock full of all kinds of bells, whistles, and widgets.