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Old September 14, 2009, 10:56 PM   #1
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hepl to choose: SW 327 or 627

Hi:
I'm new to a world of wheelguns, but after having real fun recently shooting quite a few of them I think I'm ready to buy one.
It will be straight for fun: not for CCW (I carry Glock 19), not for IDPA (I shoot Glock-34). Well, may be for home protection (you never know).
I have pretty long fingers for my generally average frame (6'4''/220) and I feel uncomfortable with J frame guns and not good enough with SW 686 (but I admit: this is the great gun!). I eye two SW built on N frame: 327 and 627 (probably 327 looks a little too Star Wars). Anyone have a personal experience with strong feelings towards (or against) either? Your comments are greatly appreciated.
Please do not say 'buy both' (I can afford any of two, but not two).
Also, since in dog years I'm already dead more than three times, I do not have fun shooting .44mag, .05, etc. I'd like to put my limit as .357mag and practice with 38.
Thank you very much!
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Old September 14, 2009, 11:07 PM   #2
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327 is part of the "nightguard" series and is made from unobtanium.

It's light enough (21 or 26 ounces depending on barrel length.... less than that of my 5 shot steel SP101) that the recoil can engage the internal lock of the revolver.

The 627, on the other hand, will last you your entire life. Built for .44 magnum and .45 colt, it can handle the .357 all day, and has the mass to avert an accidental lock up of the internal lock.
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Old September 15, 2009, 02:41 AM   #3
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I have both N-frames

I have a 327 (Aluminum) .357mag M&P R8 (Not a "Nighguard"), and a 627 (Steel) V-comp with a 5" barrel and a 1/2" Compensator.

Both are excellant guns all-around, with great triggers DA/SA. The recoil is pretty light on the heavier 627, but the 327 isn't that bad IMHO.

Although I shoot it more, and use my 327 for HD, I think you'd like the 627 for less recoil, and the 4" barreled 627 will give you great balance.

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Old September 15, 2009, 05:48 AM   #4
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I traded for a LNIB 5" JM PC627 V-Comp some years back. Unreal trigger. A bit unwieldy - the comp or muzzle blank is something else to clean. Replacement front sights are difficult to find. Then, the '08 S&W catalog intro-ed two new 4" 627s - a production version and a feature-laden '627 Pro' variant. The latter is only $56 more, MSRP, and includes eased ejector star for faster reloads, moonclip ready, a modicum of a trigger job, and, my favorite, a spring-loaded front sight for fast sight changes without tools. It was my choice:



The 4" 627 Pro points easily - and naturally. It is my favorite - my keeper. I reload, so my .357's are wimpy plinkers - really just .38s in longer cases. You could buy the 627 Pro, the aftermarket Ahrends 'Retro Target' grips, the SDM fiber optic front sight, a bunch of moonclips (... and a demooning nutdriver!), ammo, and a 'Happy Meal' for what you'd save from the cost of the PC 327 TR 8, etc. You'll like any of them, of course.

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Old September 15, 2009, 12:17 PM   #5
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For the purposes you describe, I think the 627 would suit your needs better. Steel N-Frames soak up enough recoil to make .357 Magnums downright pleasant (my old M28 is an absolute peach). If you're just using the gun for a range toy and HD, weight isn't a factor so the 327's scandium frame loses its advantage and actually becomes a drawback (less weight=more recoil).
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Old September 15, 2009, 01:22 PM   #6
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If you're just using the gun for a range toy and HD, weight isn't a factor so the 327's scandium frame loses its advantage and actually becomes a drawback (less weight=more recoil).
I can't agree, but I can't disagree!

I like my 327 better for everything much more than my 627, except for rapid firing.

I love my 627, but it has became a safe queen, and I sleep with the 327 along with my 638 airweight, which is my carry gun.
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Old September 15, 2009, 03:00 PM   #7
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I recently bought a 327 M&P R8. It is a Lew Horton Performance Center gun which may or may not have been fired. The gun is pristine. I have no other real experience with revolvers (mostly 1911's), but this gun is just a treat. At the range with .38 Spl it has light recoil and is very accurate. With .357 it is very loud, breathes fire and will move a casual shooter around, but it is still very accurate. The trigger in both DA and SA is very smooth and has a clean break. I don't see it as a carry gun, but for home defense and unlimited fun at the range it's great. I got it for a very good price so I can't say if it's worth $1400.
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Old September 15, 2009, 06:38 PM   #8
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I have to second the 627 Pro Series as mine is great. Great trigger and even hot 180 gr .357 is very manageable from the N frame.


I've only held the 327 but it just didn't do anything for me. No need for the lighter frame from a gun that would never be carried concealed for me.


I'd never get rid of my 627 8 shooter
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Old September 15, 2009, 07:47 PM   #9
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I have a 327 TRR8, but had it been out, I'd have been likely to go with the 627 Pro instead- the Scandium frame is just kind of pointless (don't get me wrong, I love my TRR8, but even I admit that the frame material could have been chosen better). The 627 Pro is a nice value- most of the features of the PC627, a price not much higher than the "normal" 627.
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Old September 15, 2009, 09:55 PM   #10
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Thank you all very much for your comments!
I think I already tilted a little towards 627, now I have my targets set: 627Pro is a way to go!
Again, thank you all!
That's what's forums is all about?
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Old September 16, 2009, 05:23 AM   #11
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I wish I would have bought this 627 (4") instead of my V-Comp. Not that I'm not happy with the V-comp, but it's a little front heavy.
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Old September 16, 2009, 05:26 AM   #12
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My 627 V-Comp
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Old September 16, 2009, 07:26 AM   #13
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N Frame Fan

If you're new, recoil will be an issue. If your hands are small, get a medium "L" frame Smith. If you have normal to large hands, get the "N" frame 627. The extra 10-15 ounces of weight will serve you well in durability and comfort.
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Old September 16, 2009, 02:14 PM   #14
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"If your hands are small, get a medium "L" frame Smith."
6' 4"? I hope he doesn't have small to medium hands!
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Old September 16, 2009, 02:58 PM   #15
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Quote:
Quote:
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"If your hands are small, get a medium "L" frame Smith."

6' 4"? I hope he doesn't have small to medium hands!
You never know, he could be that guy from the Burger King commercials

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu_bE7g2wqM
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Old September 16, 2009, 10:42 PM   #16
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327 627

you can't go wrong with either.
300 rds of 357s every sunday in a 327 will chew up a novice.
the 327 moves much quicker from target to target.
the 327 tactical rail makes it superior for home/self defense.
s&w tells me scandium will eat 357s till the end of time.
but it's hard to beat that heavy stainless steel.
how old is 3 dog lifetimes anyway???
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