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Old August 31, 2009, 12:29 PM   #1
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The Deer Hunter with Robert De Niro

1. What make and model rifle was he using when he was hunting that buck and let him go?
2. What caliber round was he probably using?
3. With an old mature buck like that, the head with horns might be a great trophy but the meat probably wouldn't be that good, correct?

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Old August 31, 2009, 12:57 PM   #2
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It's De Niro,
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Old August 31, 2009, 01:12 PM   #3
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Left handed

It appears to be left handed but I am sure that is a camera effect.
Considering he was a blue collar guy and it was in the 70's I would guess a 30-06.
That animal was a red stag if I remember correctly and cannot be found anywhere near where they were located.

Younger meat is more tender but good cleaning is more important to having good cuts.
A well harvested and prepared old buck can be great eating but will not be as good as a well harvested and prepared yearling.

The location was in Washington(mount baker) but the story was set in Pennsylvania(allengany mountains).

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Old August 31, 2009, 01:14 PM   #4
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I didn't realize it was a lefty action.

1. No idea, sorry. That should be pretty easy for someone here.

2. Even less idea, could have been anything since I would bet it is a prop gun anyway. If I was going to make up an answer, I would say 30-06.

3. Meat would be fine if handled correctly. Maybe not as tender, but still fine eating.

Of course if you strapped it to the hood of your cadillac to get it home.....
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Old August 31, 2009, 06:57 PM   #5
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Looks like a Remington 700 model.
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Old August 31, 2009, 07:09 PM   #6
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The Alleghenies are in Pennsylvania...

... and VA, WV, and MD.

The mountain ranges in Washington are the Olympic and Cascade ranges.

Not sure where this was shot, but the story was set in PA.
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Old August 31, 2009, 07:11 PM   #7
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http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Deer_Hunter%2C_The
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Old August 31, 2009, 07:18 PM   #8
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That was a big buck!
It wasn't a whitetail.
Whatever it was, it would not be found in the Pennsylvania mountains.

Artistic license, I suppose.
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Old August 31, 2009, 07:36 PM   #9
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Remington 700 LH.
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Old August 31, 2009, 07:40 PM   #10
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I believe the rifle De Niro used in the film is a Remington 700BDL. During the 1970s, Remington offered the left-hand version in .30'06, .270, and possibly 7mm Remington magnum.



Interestingly, Internet Movie Firearms Database is in error on this particular, calling the rifle a Winchester Model 70.



Even a comparison of the De Niro images with the IMFDB generic illustration of the Model 70 alone shows the differences in the two.


The rifle used by De Niro shows the stock with a Monte Carlo cheekpiece and dark foreend tip and pistol grip cap. It also has the distinctive rear iron sight installed on the then-current Remington 700s.

Also, De Niro's rifle does not show the trademark Model 70 rotating safety.

Hope this provides some of what you wanted.
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Old August 31, 2009, 07:48 PM   #11
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The ebony caps on the XTR's of that era slanted back, the Remingtons were straight up and down as in the photo.
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Old August 31, 2009, 10:30 PM   #12
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I dunno about the rifle

great movie though
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Old August 31, 2009, 10:57 PM   #13
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What a crappy movie.
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Old September 1, 2009, 07:19 AM   #14
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What a crappy movie.
I'm with you on that one. Total crapfest.
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Old September 1, 2009, 08:10 AM   #15
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Not sure I'd call it crappy...

... but it's one of the most depressing films I've sat through.
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Old September 1, 2009, 02:48 PM   #16
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i'm with jonny

I am no expert.
but my first guest was remington.
the Sight look so much like the "Williams" sight on one of my Remingtons.
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Old September 1, 2009, 08:03 PM   #17
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Most of the steel mill and town scenes were shot in Mingo Junction, Ohio. A crappy little rust belt town on the Ohio River just south of Steubenville.

Allegheny Mts or Appalachian Mts have no resemblance to the snow capped mts seen in the movie. It's a Hollywood fraud.

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Old September 3, 2009, 06:49 PM   #18
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Not awhole lot of knowledege on deer hunting.
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Old September 3, 2009, 10:48 PM   #19
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+1 for Johnny...
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Old September 4, 2009, 07:38 AM   #20
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I was working in Steubenville when they were filming the movie.
I always heard some of those hunt scenes were filmed right across the river in West Virginia but I don't know that for sure. In fact, if you go on Google earth, when you put your mouse over the little blue boxes just north of Weirton WV it says that the Deer Hunter was filmed there.

It's nice to hear that the area I grew up in is crappy.
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Old September 4, 2009, 05:01 PM   #21
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To the guy that added the imfdb link, I applaud you.
I didn't know such a thing existed. Thanks.
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Old September 9, 2009, 08:11 PM   #22
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Steubenville tried to attract tourists with their wall murals back in 1980's. Did it ever pan out? Years ago, I hunted with my Dad at a 10 acre orchard near Wintersville. Steep country and plenty of deer.

Mingo Junction is a town of peeling paint, rusted out cars, and closed businesses. The Follansbee coke plant fillled the air with sulfur odor from coal crushing operations. Mingo Jct. seems like a crappy town to me. But some people probably love it there.

Further north, is the small town of Calcutta, Ohio. Dad used to call it the tip of the spear. He was referring to West Virginia right across the Ohio River. Wooded areas outside of Calcutta looked promising but I've never hunted there.

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Old September 9, 2009, 08:55 PM   #23
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That whole area is dead.
For a century or so they manufactured steel. Steel towns arn't senic.
But the steel industry moved over-seas in the 70s. They have basically nothing to offer. To my mind, they never lost the steel mindset. When I am back there now, I see that they don't know how to make the most of what they have. Instead of trying to be like other cities, they need to take what they have and make it work. It is a beautiful place in my opinion. Compared to where I live now, the people are almost saints.

Yeah, if you are looking for glitz and glamor, then you arn't going to find it there.
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Old September 10, 2009, 07:50 AM   #24
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I live in the Appalachian Mountains. In fact, the highest mountain east of the Mississippi is right outside my window, I am looking at it right now.

I don't know where they filmed those hunting scenes, but they had to cross either the Mississippi River, or the Atlantic Ocean to do it.
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Old September 10, 2009, 08:46 AM   #25
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You go where the scenery is best, not necessarily authentic.

See Internet Movie DataBase, The Deer Hunter

toward the bottom of the first screen, there's a section called Fun Stuff. Then, under "Goofs," they include:
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Errors in geography: The hunting scenes supposedly taking place in the Appalachian Range are obviously filmed elsewhere: The Appalachians are a smooth rolling range, but the scenes show towering, jagged peaks. The scenes were filmed in the Cascade Range, clear across the country.
For more specifics, look at the left margin, under "Other Info," click on "filming locations." Amongst MANY other locales, it shows:

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Mount Baker, Washington, USA
(Allegheny Mountains deer hunt)

Nooksack Falls, Mount Baker, Washington, USA
(Michael releases the deer)

Whatcom County, Washington, USA
Me, I wonder if there's some back story as to why they used an elk for most of the deer scenes. Could it have been a foundling, adopted into a family of deer?
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