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Old June 12, 2009, 07:02 AM   #51
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Smoke: I see you use a Gump phrase in your sig. The author lives down the road about 5 miles.....Tom Hanks got the fame,and Winston got the blame!Had little recognition for his work.
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Old June 12, 2009, 10:08 AM   #52
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I have two 58 Remmys that I shoot both C&B and .45LCs. I just like the set up that I have for these.
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Old June 12, 2009, 01:03 PM   #53
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Tom Hanks got the fame,and Winston got the blame!Had little recognition for his work
Well Pwillie please tell Mr. Winston he did an exceptional job on the movie "Forest Gump" it's one of my all time favorites. Please tell him I admire his work and will mention him to others in conversation or while watching this movie... Excellant job mr. Winston and you are fasmous in my book and on this forum now world wide thanks to Pwillie.
Sincere thanks to you Mr. Winston.
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Old June 12, 2009, 01:05 PM   #54
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I have two 58 Remmys that I shoot both C&B and .45LCs
Which .45Colt Conversions do you have and what Mfg. Rems. Jus' curious.
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Old June 14, 2009, 12:24 PM   #55
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Life is good with a 1858 and an R&D conversion cylinder, which allows both BP and cartridges with a quick cylinder change.
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Old June 15, 2009, 01:55 AM   #56
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I got stop buyin guns now and get acouple more Conversion Cylinders.

I jus' bid and won this Old Army Remington today...don't know if i'll be needin' a conversion cyl. for it though... :O)

http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction...Item=130951242
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Old June 15, 2009, 02:01 AM   #57
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I'd still liked to have got that Uberti 1873BP SAA from R&D when they had um.
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Old June 15, 2009, 02:10 PM   #58
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Like the 1858,looks like a real deal!
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Old June 15, 2009, 06:11 PM   #59
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Smokin Gun - Looking at the photos of the Remmy, a couple of things look strange.

First, the front sight looks strange, but could have been replaced in the field. It's not like any I've seen in photos.

Second, there is no double-wing cylinder arbor-end, for cylinder removal.

I'm not a Remmy expert, but every photo of a BP Remmy I've ever seen has the wing-end cylinder arbor -- some rebated into the frame, some not. My only reference is "The Guns of Remington" by Madaus which has dozens of photos of this style gun and most (but maybe not all) of it's variations.

From the photos it appears the cylinder pin is extended out under the loading lever, but how would the cylinder be removed?
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Old June 15, 2009, 07:33 PM   #60
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Second, there is no double-wing cylinder arbor-end, for cylinder removal.
You are correct on the site and the cylinder pin...It seems that site was rpaced in the field in the 1860's probly, and i like that site better than the real one :O)
On the cylinder pin the 1861 vs the newer 1858(1863) there was a slot that the t handle and cylinder pin slid forward with the loading latch closed or up. In the Field during the War between the States a soldier Charging on horse or foot...maybe even unholstering the 1861 Rem the T handle would slide forward and the cylinder would fall out at an unopertune time when firing...a field fix was this longer cylinder pin. Then out came the New Model Army 58 in 1863 to remedy that problem.

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Old June 15, 2009, 07:57 PM   #61
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Thanks for the explanation. I've got a lot to learn -- even about this one gun, which I think is one of the best looking guns ever made. And congratulations on winning the auction for this fine piece of history. It looks like you may have gotten a rare one -- a jewel.
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Old June 15, 2009, 08:30 PM   #62
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Smokin Gun, I have one NEW Pietta and one used New Army NJ. I just bought a new R&D con. cylinder. I was going to get the Kirst one but those costs too much(wife said so ).

Here's the KICKER...I use one, the same R&D(that is made for a Pietta) con. cylinder for both guns. The guy I bought it from(on GB) stated that this can only be used on a Pietta. Maybe the New Army NJ is made by Pietta?
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Old June 15, 2009, 09:06 PM   #63
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Does the N.J. say Navy Arms or Hartford model?on it? Both would have to be Piettas if the R&D fit both...the Pietta cylinders are .005"-, .010" longer than the others i have run across... a good buy and good choice as it seems :O)
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