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Old June 5, 2009, 11:31 PM   #26
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Not a very effective weapon, though.

How so?
It's really punishing to fire. The sights aren't very good. The straight-pull action is kind of jerky. It needs the clips to fire as a repeater.

It would be good for an artilleryman to use for blazing away at a squadron of cavalry charging for the guns, I guess...

Give me a SMLE any day...
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Old June 6, 2009, 08:04 AM   #27
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Quote: "Oh come on folks, the recoil on........isn't that bad."

In my case I think it was those 200 grain Albanian loads in the M38. I ordered 100 rounds of Wolf ammo from Cheaper than Dirt with lighter bullets but just never had the desire to retry that MN. More content to shoot my MK III* with some reduced loads. I'm not sure about the M44, that bayonet and lug would add some weight to it.
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Old June 6, 2009, 10:41 AM   #28
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I dont thinks it neccesarily heavier, i think it seems that way because the weight is distriputed differently and its all at the front. All said and done though, its and ugly rifle...haha give me my K98 anyday, screw the Steyer, I want real German Magic
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Old June 6, 2009, 01:28 PM   #29
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...haha give me my K98 anyday, screw the Steyer, I want real German Magic
Ferdinand von Mannlicher understood that "German Magic" pretty well. So well in fact that the Jerries lost their butts in court for copying his packet-loading system, which gave Mannlicher's works the right to produce G.88's for export.
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Old June 8, 2009, 08:04 AM   #30
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It's really punishing to fire.
True, but before your shoulder turns to mush it's quite capable, as any carbine that is.

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The sights aren't very good.
I don't have a problem with the sights, and it's the only major battle rifle I know of that has provisions for sighting below 300 meters.

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The straight-pull action is kind of jerky.
Once they wear they do get a little jinky. New or rebuilt ones are almost as smooth as the K-31

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It needs the clips to fire as a repeater.
A true disadvantage, but as a carbine they're kind of a last-resort last-stand ("Oh my God, they've overrun the typing pool!") weapon.

Having said all that, it is by far the least-used weapon in my paltry arsenal (K-31, M38, 91/30x2, M24/27, M95, H001, 10/22).

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A SMLE or K-31...
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Old June 8, 2009, 03:05 PM   #31
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I'fve heard alot about the K-31, is it worth the buy to add to my collection?
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Old June 9, 2009, 07:49 AM   #32
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I've heard a lot about the K-31, is it worth the buy to add to my collection?
The ergonomics of the K-31 take a little getting used to, but it will out-shoot anything in most people's arsenal. Even the surplus GP11 ammo is match grade.
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Old June 9, 2009, 05:25 PM   #33
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Where can I get one for a decent price?
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Old June 9, 2009, 09:21 PM   #34
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It's really punishing to fire.
Allright, some of you guys just need to man up. This truely is the age of the wimp. There are way too many sissies around here. I was at the range in Jacksonville a few months ago and watched a NINE YEAR OLD BOY put round after round down range through a m44 without even a flinch, and then I come on here and wah wah wah, "recoil is bad", "the rifle is punishing", geez. Grow some nards guys. Ok, I feel better now.
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Old June 9, 2009, 10:11 PM   #35
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Yeah, all that kind of talk will scare people away from getting some of these great rifles! I know I was apprehensive about getting my M44 because of all the horror stories of painful recoil, I think there was even one about a guy who was in too much pain after firing the very first round, that he completely gave up on shooting it after that.
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Old June 9, 2009, 10:14 PM   #36
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Tell me about it...

They sell flyweight 7mm Rem Mag mountain rifles every day, yet people brag about the "Manly Kick" of a 9-lb. rifle firing rounds with low-end .30-'06 recoil.

A 12-gauge shotgun shooting low-brass field loads recoils harder than nearly any military rifle ever made.
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Old June 9, 2009, 10:18 PM   #37
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Im with Tamara and smoakingun... I have 2 Mosin 91/59s and my K98s, my brother (who is 9) can let off round after round off and not as much as wink, they love firing those things, anyone saying the M44 has a "Manly Kick" needs to get some hair on their *******.
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Old June 9, 2009, 10:35 PM   #39
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i edited my post, i apologize, its just frustrating to hear these people complain about a bad kick from a rifle...boo hoo, you dont like it, sell it, dont belly ache about a Carbine kicking
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Old June 11, 2009, 08:11 AM   #40
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Dr. Mauser - Go back and read your post #24. Which is it?
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Old June 11, 2009, 10:34 AM   #41
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Lighten up

Nobody here has said that these battle rifles are unshootable due to their recoil, just they have a hefty kick. I know someone personally who has shot an AR-15/M16 for 20 years who shot my M24/47 two weeks ago. It really startled him, and he's a medium-large guy. I then handed him my M91/38. He loved it, but was definitely rubbing his shoulder after five rounds. I then told him next time we'll try my M95.

Those of who are telling us to 'man-up' or 'grow a pair' may not realize that everyone handles recoil differently due to experience, body size, weight, etc. I happen to like the kick of these rifles, but that doesn't mean I can tolerate 100 rounds of it in one afternoon.
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Those of who are telling us to 'man-up' or 'grow a pair' may not realize that everyone handles recoil differently due to experience, body size, weight, etc. I happen to like the kick of these rifles, but that doesn't mean I can tolerate 100 rounds of it in one afternoon.


That post was meant to be taken with a grain of salt. If the truth be told though, anyone can learn to handle the kind of recoil these old rifles dish out, if my wife learned to anyone can, all one has to do is put in the trigger time.
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