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Old June 6, 2009, 01:02 PM   #1
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How free is your state?

Here is the just released list of how states stack up in the freedom department.New Hampshire leads the list freedom wise while the socialists round out the bottom ten.Rhode Island surprised me.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=91539
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http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/05/0...nk-least-free/

1. New Hampshire
0.432
2. Colorado
0.421
3. South Dakota
0.392
4. Idaho
0.356
5. Texas
0.346
6. Missouri
0.320
7. Tennessee
0.284
8. Arizona
0.279
9. Virginia
0.275
10. North Dakota
0.268
11. Utah
0.250
12. Kansas
0.210
13. Indiana
0.208
14. Michigan
0.206
15. Wyoming
0.193
16. Iowa
0.183
17. Georgia
0.146
18. Oklahoma
0.143
19. Montana
0.125
20. Pennsylvania
0.102
21. Alabama
0.092
22. Florida
0.068
23. North Carolina
0.019
24. Nevada
0.013
25. Mississippi
-0.004
26. Delaware
-0.008
27. Oregon
-0.009
28. Nebraska
-0.018
29. Arkansas
-0.023
30. South Carolina
-0.040
31. Alaska
-0.071
32. Kentucky
-0.082
33. West Virginia
-0.097
34. Louisiana
-0.110
35. Minnesota
-0.111
36. New Mexico
-0.150
37. Wisconsin
-0.199
38. Ohio
-0.205
39. Maine
-0.214
40. Vermont
-0.217
41. Connecticut
-0.225
42. Illinois
-0.238
43. Massachusetts
-0.242
44. Washington
-0.275
45. Hawaii
-0.304
46. Maryland
-0.405
47. California
-0.413
48. Rhode Island
-0.430
49. New Jersey
-0.457
50. New York
-0.784
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Old June 6, 2009, 01:35 PM   #2
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TE, While I won't be the one to hit the tri-angle button on this thread but...
Personal freedoms is a far cry from just 2A rights thus I do not see the gun related or gun related laws and civil rights connection...
Plus these numbers could be easily skewed...
For instance the louisiana laws against britches showing boxer shorts... is that included...
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Old June 6, 2009, 01:36 PM   #3
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Geeze, the way life should be eh? I'm surprised to see Maine so low and just a few miles separate me from the freest state.

It's not so bad here. I'll have to check out the links to see why we're so far down the line.

Surprised about NY though. I woulda figured California.
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Old June 6, 2009, 01:42 PM   #4
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"Rankings were determined by measuring the personal and economic freedoms of the citizens of the various states coupled with the size and cost of government, education regulations, Second Amendment restrictions, as well as the amount of interference via regulations and police agencies on the populace."

These have nothing to do, directly, with freedom.


NY ranks at the bottom of the list due to high taxes, education regulations and size and cost of government. None of those things are equal to "freedom" in my mind. High taxes and big government suck? Yep, sucks a lot. Not a freedom issue. Guess who keeps putting the idiots back in office? The FREELY voting, freely living in NY state, NYers.


NY is not nearly as bad as it's reputation would have people believe. Far too many people think that NY = NY City, which it decidedly does not. The rest of the state is very nice indeed.


In short, I'm calling this BS.
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Old June 6, 2009, 02:03 PM   #5
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Personal freedoms is a far cry from just 2A rights thus I do not see the gun related or gun related laws and civil rights connection...
I think personal freedom qualifies for this forum.
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Read Only Archive - Round table discussions range from the Bill of Rights, to concealed carry, to general political issues.
Freedom should be a general political issue if it isn't already.
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Old June 6, 2009, 04:31 PM   #6
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I think personal freedom qualifies for this forum.
No it doesn't, but see my next response.
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Freedom should be a general political issue if it isn't already.
Bingo!

General Political issues are off topic.

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