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Old May 27, 2009, 09:32 PM   #51
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Hey guys, I've seen/shot a factory original M14 semi. Says so right on the receiver, originally came that way. The bit where the selector switch goes is smooth, never milled out, factory original delete. I'll have to check the manufacturer next time I get a chance, I though it was Springfield armory, but I'm not certain. The guy I know that has it has had it for many years, and says it's a rare gun.. I guess it is Point being, if the one I know of exists, there must be more...
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Old May 27, 2009, 09:36 PM   #52
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Hey guys, I've seen/shot a factory original M14 semi. Says so right on the receiver, originally came that way. The bit where the selector switch goes is smooth, never milled out, factory original delete. I'll have to check the manufacturer next time I get a chance, I though it was Springfield armory, but I'm not certain. The guy I know that has it has had it for many years, and says it's a rare gun.. I guess it is Point being, if the one I know of exists, there must be more...

Federal Ordnance made a number of semi-auto M14s as did Norinco/Polytech.
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Old May 28, 2009, 06:52 AM   #53
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Fulton Armory receivers are marked "M14," as are others.

The only semiauto USGI M14s are the M14NMs, which have the selector boss, albeit welded.


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Old May 28, 2009, 07:07 AM   #54
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It doesn't matter if DoD did or did not "lose track" of a gun, some gun, or all of them. If an individual is found with an M14, he will be arrested, indicted and possibly imprisoned. In one case I know of, a three star general testified that the Army had NEVER released ANY M14 rifles for civilian sale, period. And that, therefore, ANY GI M14 in civilian hands was not only illegal, but stolen property, period.
That is almost correct. M14s were issued by the DoD to DCM (now CMP) affiliated clubs. However, in the last year or so the CMP has issued a recall for all the club M14s. Until then, a civilian could be legally in the possession of a DoD M14, so long as it was a DCM/CMP club gun.

The true M14s out in the civilian population have come from several sources. The Department of Energy had M14s for nuclear facilities guards, but disposed of them before '86. When HRA went Chapter 7 and was liquidated, the M14s in the possession of the company were sold off. These, of course, were never DoD guns; they were the property of HRA.

Also, TRW presented M14NMs to "friends of the company," which is how the only legeally-defined true M14 semiauto (only) in civilian hands came to be.

So true M14s can be had legally. Until quite recently, it was legal for DCM/CMP-affiliated club members to be in possession of DoD-loaned M14s. There are true M14s that never went to the DoD; Frank Iannamico has had one on offer at this time; I'm not sure if it has been sold or not. If you have $35,000 to spare and are interested, I'll put you into contact with him.

The only full-auto M14-type rifle I've fired is Frank's select-fire Springfield, Inc. M1A, a rifle built and NFA-registered prior to '86, of course. Note that "Springfield, Inc." may be "the oldest name in American gunmaking," but the name is the only thing in common with the real Springfield Armory, the National ARmory in Springfield, MA closed by then-SecDef McNamara in '68. The confusion is deliberate, though a brilliant marketing ploy.

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Old May 30, 2009, 12:32 AM   #55
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Here's a update on the LE M14.
It was USGI rifle loaned to a dept. that mistakenly sold so it could purchase
new weapons.
The rifle was beautiful with only storage rack dings on the stock.
The metal finish was mint. The selector was locked. It was maufactured in 1961. It was field stripped and found to be very well marked.

After all the advise on this topic of which I am very grateful, the rifle was sold back to the Dept.

The world is safe again Mr.Keenan.


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