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Old March 1, 2009, 12:10 AM   #1
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is a .22 cal. really a hitmans weapon of choice?

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Old March 1, 2009, 12:23 AM   #2
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It was true years ago as I recall. I read a lot of books on organized crime. They even reference a .22 caliber killer in Casino. True story including the .22 killer.
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Old March 1, 2009, 12:28 AM   #3
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I doubt a hitman will come forth to answer your questions. 'Not saying we don't have one as a member, but he/she has kept it a secret so far ... and a good thing, don't you think?

The only thing I feel compelled to ask about in your post is this:
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I know small calibers often enter the body and richochet all around the body causing more damage.. but wouldn't a bigger caliber more effective and just blow somebodies head off whats the analogy of this??
I know small calibers often enter the body and richochet all around the body causing more damage. How is it that you know this?

but wouldn't a bigger caliber ... just blow somebodies head off Boy! That would be a really large caliber.

Maybe a google search for "Hitman's weapon of choice" will get you what you are looking for.

I'm sure there are some interesting replies coming in this thread. 'Hope you remember that this is the internet.
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Old March 1, 2009, 12:31 AM   #4
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An assassin usually works close to his target. A .22 is quiet and enough to be lethal. A .22 suppresses very well, even with home made suppressors. Most assassinations are done without suppressors though. A .22 fired in a house usually cannot be heard outside so neighbors are unaware of a shot being fired. An experienced assassin will use environmental noise to suppress the gunshot, such as a passing train, rock concert, etc. It isn't simply walk up and smoke someone. It doesn't go down like in the movies. The military and government agencies routinely deploy suppressed .22LR weapons in covert diplomacy.
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Old March 1, 2009, 12:33 AM   #5
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Kind of a morbid thread but I would say a .22 with a suppressor makes sense because it is a lot more quiet than larger calibers. You could snuff someone out in an alley and no body would hear. At closer ranges a head shot with a .22 would be lethal nearly every time. I assume Hit men don't typically get into gun fights, so heavy calibers really aren't necessary.

Definitely a uhmmm.... interesting question. Contemplating a career change? By the way, since when were hit men stand up guys?

Edit: freakshow and bud beat me to it...
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Old March 1, 2009, 12:36 AM   #6
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22 will often enter the head but rarely exit it. At an angle they supposedly will ricochet off leaving someone with a very bad head ache. That is one of the reasons even a very good shot should think twice about using a 22lr for defense. With minimal suppression and surprise, at point blank range a 22lr almost certainly guarantees death with very little noise and a lot less cleanup than say a 45 acp which would likely leave a nasty exit wound and splatter.
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Old March 1, 2009, 12:43 AM   #7
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Yes, the .22 LR has been widely used as an assassins weapon. A little net research will verify this. One example is the Mossad using the Beretta Model 71, another is the CIA using .22 Walther PPKs. One or two .22 LRs to the brain from a yard or two away is all it will take.

I've seen many hogs shot for slaughter in traps and pens, one well placed shot to the forehead with a .22 LR pistol or rifle, puts them down instantly.
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Old March 1, 2009, 12:52 AM   #8
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I'd assume most hitmans don't attack their target while he is fishing in the middle summer at some secluded lake with no one around. He's probably after business men/cheating husbands who are in the city or their homes. I've seen homemade supressors for .22's using only a bottle and they were pretty quiet. Seems like a good weapon for a couple shots and slipping away unnoticed.
Not to mention cheap ammo!
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Old March 1, 2009, 01:00 AM   #9
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I could be wrong but I believe that a lot the reputation comes from its use by the Mossad. The were known for favoring the use of a suppressed Beretta fired into the forehead from only a couple of feet away. Sort of a hello and goodbye at the same time.
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Old March 1, 2009, 01:01 AM   #10
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there is a hitman in my area that already been caught and charged with several killings... and he is a stand up guy
Yeah, I'm sure he's a regular Mother Teresa.
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Old March 1, 2009, 01:18 AM   #11
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I only said he is a stand up guy is cuz he is taking the charges.. he didn't act like a baby and deny his actions.. he did the crimes.. he's admitting to them.. he confessed to an additional 5 killings to free an innocent teenager!! most wouldn't cop to additional charges no matter what they were.. and this guy is taking murder charges.. thats all..

NO I am not a hitman in training... I am prolly being flagged just for typing and asking these questions... so NO I am not seeking to learn from the master or incorporate my own hitman corporation.. I always heard .22 was the weapon of choice.. so who's better to ask then gun experts??

I am just addicted to and a fan of guns just like everybody else in the forum.. lol..

I mean do people ask why someone would ask why serial killers kill?? whats their MO?? I am all of the sudden... a suspect in my region?? it was a curious thing I wondered about..

I watch CSI and the 1st 48 hrs..and shows that teach or have allot of gun related topic's info in them.. and etc.. and I naturally pick up and learn allot about guns.. bullets.. what happens.. when umm...bullets penetrate a body and so forth.. does anybody really think if I was a hitman or a hitman in training I would actually be advertising, airing, putting my business for all of the free world to learn about and know about me?? NO..

I apologize if I ruffled anybodies feathers.. it was NOT my intention or purpose of my post what so ever.. if the MODS or the boards administration feel this is not an appropriate thread? then by all means CLOSE IT.. ban me if I all of the sudden I am a suspect or a person of interest / concern?? really I didn't think I was all that, but if I'm that big of a deal, then by all means do whatevers necessary?? I only asked cuz it was on the news..
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Old March 1, 2009, 01:35 AM   #12
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From what I have read here and on other gun boards, seen on television, and from my own experience, a .22 is plenty enough to kill someone quickly and quietly.

They are low-powered, but up close they still penetrate.

They are low-recoil, meaning you can get a whole magazine off right on target with ease.

They are quiet. A .22 is quieter than most normal household sounds like a toilet flushing. You could kill someone in one room and the guy next door wouldn't even notice.

I'm not sure that they are a hitman's weapon of choice, but they are suitable for killing, that's for sure.

My only concern would be shot placement. You would have to be quick in hitting vulnerable areas or the victim might have time for self-defense. But as long as you do, a .22 is deadly. I watched a Forensic Files where two men were killed in bed with a Ruger Mark pistol. This was AFTER they heard the door get kicked in. By the time they figured out what was happening, they were full of lead.

Me personally, I favor larger calibers. If ever I decide to give my carbon back, I'm doing it in .45.
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Old March 1, 2009, 02:02 AM   #13
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Before you get all chafed you should realize that you came onto a very normal, family-friendly forum, named yourself "Marlo Manson from Murderland", complimented a hitman, and them asked a bunch of creepy questions about how to assassinate someone while typing like a 14 year old on a cellphone.

Your reception should not be surprising.
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Old March 1, 2009, 02:29 AM   #14
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Yeah this thread is bogus.:barf:

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Old March 1, 2009, 09:47 AM   #15
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